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		<title>By: Leonid Mamchenkov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonid Mamchenkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess I just worded that poorly. They didn’t include things that aren’t commonly found in both Windows and Mac OS X.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see... Thanks for the clarification. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess I just worded that poorly. They didn’t include things that aren’t commonly found in both Windows and Mac OS X.</p></blockquote>
<p>I see&#8230; Thanks for the clarification. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130105&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Verdican wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I still hate those programs that prompt you to install different toolbars because inexperienced users will just click the default box; and end up with an enormous amount of toolbars.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I hate those as well. That&#039;s what really gets a lot of people, especially since all of the big companies (Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc...) are doing it now.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130119&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Leonid Mamchenkov wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;And third-party applications commonly included with the Linux distributions, such as OpenOffice and Gimp, were ignored to keep things fair.
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Somehow, I find it difficult to fold this sentence into my brain.  Isn’t pretty much &lt;b&gt;everything&lt;/b&gt; in the Linux distribution a third-party software?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I guess I just worded that poorly. They didn&#039;t include things that aren&#039;t commonly found in both Windows and Mac OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130105" rel="nofollow">Verdican wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I still hate those programs that prompt you to install different toolbars because inexperienced users will just click the default box; and end up with an enormous amount of toolbars.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I hate those as well. That&#8217;s what really gets a lot of people, especially since all of the big companies (Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc&#8230;) are doing it now.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130119" rel="nofollow">Leonid Mamchenkov wrote:</a><br />
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<blockquote>And third-party applications commonly included with the Linux distributions, such as OpenOffice and Gimp, were ignored to keep things fair.
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<p>Somehow, I find it difficult to fold this sentence into my brain.  Isn’t pretty much <b>everything</b> in the Linux distribution a third-party software?</p></blockquote>
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<p>I guess I just worded that poorly. They didn&#8217;t include things that aren&#8217;t commonly found in both Windows and Mac OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonid Mamchenkov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonid Mamchenkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And third-party applications commonly included with the Linux distributions, such as OpenOffice and Gimp, were ignored to keep things fair.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Somehow, I find it difficult to fold this sentence into my brain.  Isn&#039;t pretty much &lt;b&gt;everything&lt;/b&gt; in the Linux distribution a third-party software?

I mean, take Red Hat for example.  What software are they developing in-house?  Anaconda installation GUI.  Maybe bits and pieces of RPM, although it&#039;s an external project now, from what I know.  Shells? Compilers? Even the Linux kernel itself is not an in-house project, even though they are spending plenty of time on that...   Where does one draw a line between in-house application and a third-party one?  And then, is it fair to compare what&#039;s left to what is offered by other operating system vendors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And third-party applications commonly included with the Linux distributions, such as OpenOffice and Gimp, were ignored to keep things fair.</p></blockquote>
<p>Somehow, I find it difficult to fold this sentence into my brain.  Isn&#8217;t pretty much <b>everything</b> in the Linux distribution a third-party software?</p>
<p>I mean, take Red Hat for example.  What software are they developing in-house?  Anaconda installation GUI.  Maybe bits and pieces of RPM, although it&#8217;s an external project now, from what I know.  Shells? Compilers? Even the Linux kernel itself is not an in-house project, even though they are spending plenty of time on that&#8230;   Where does one draw a line between in-house application and a third-party one?  And then, is it fair to compare what&#8217;s left to what is offered by other operating system vendors?</p>
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		<title>By: Verdican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Verdican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130081&quot;&gt;Ryan wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The thing that amazes me is how people can actually be productive when they have 5 toolbars installed in Internet Explorer. They normally take up over half of the screen.  8O&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

Well, most people who are really productive on the Internet don&#039;t use Internet Explorer, and they certainly don&#039;t install toolbars &quot;just for the heck of it&quot;. The users I know who have a bunch of toolbars all think that it&#039;s normal to get them so they don&#039;t really do anything about it. It&#039;s when their computer starts acting up that they actually begin to wonder what they might have done wrong. I still hate those programs that prompt you to install different toolbars because inexperienced users will just click the default box; and end up with an enormous amount of toolbars. Poor chaps.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130068&quot;&gt;The How-To Geek wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;An operating system is only as secure as the amount of spyware the users willingly install…

Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they’ll have an excuse to talk to me. That’s really the only logical explanation for how they’d continually be infected. =P&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

As I&#039;m sure you know, the whole point of spyware is to trick users into installing malware onto their computers. That&#039;s the whole problem with malware. If a user decides to install something, even a good Anti-Virus program or a firewall program wouldn&#039;t be able to stop them. Buying a good Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware program is only half the battle. The other half is educating users about what they should or what they shouldn&#039;t click on. It&#039;s a shame that everyone I know is too stubborn to admit that they had ever clicked on a bad link. Oh well. It&#039;s their computer, not mine.

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I&#039;m actually surprised about the results. Don&#039;t you think it&#039;s odd that an open source operating system is patched much more than commercial operating systems? Sure, there aren&#039;t as many hackers working to exploit Linux, but it&#039;s still quite an achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130081">Ryan wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>The thing that amazes me is how people can actually be productive when they have 5 toolbars installed in Internet Explorer. They normally take up over half of the screen.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt='8O' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>Well, most people who are really productive on the Internet don&#8217;t use Internet Explorer, and they certainly don&#8217;t install toolbars &#8220;just for the heck of it&#8221;. The users I know who have a bunch of toolbars all think that it&#8217;s normal to get them so they don&#8217;t really do anything about it. It&#8217;s when their computer starts acting up that they actually begin to wonder what they might have done wrong. I still hate those programs that prompt you to install different toolbars because inexperienced users will just click the default box; and end up with an enormous amount of toolbars. Poor chaps.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130068">The How-To Geek wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>An operating system is only as secure as the amount of spyware the users willingly install…</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they’ll have an excuse to talk to me. That’s really the only logical explanation for how they’d continually be infected. =P</p></blockquote>
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<p>As I&#8217;m sure you know, the whole point of spyware is to trick users into installing malware onto their computers. That&#8217;s the whole problem with malware. If a user decides to install something, even a good Anti-Virus program or a firewall program wouldn&#8217;t be able to stop them. Buying a good Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware program is only half the battle. The other half is educating users about what they should or what they shouldn&#8217;t click on. It&#8217;s a shame that everyone I know is too stubborn to admit that they had ever clicked on a bad link. Oh well. It&#8217;s their computer, not mine.</p>
<p>_______<br />
I&#8217;m actually surprised about the results. Don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s odd that an open source operating system is patched much more than commercial operating systems? Sure, there aren&#8217;t as many hackers working to exploit Linux, but it&#8217;s still quite an achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-130068&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The How-To Geek wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they’ll have an excuse to talk to me. That’s really the only logical explanation for how they’d continually be infected. =P&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
The thing that amazes me is how people can actually be productive when they have 5 toolbars installed in Internet Explorer. They normally take up over half of the screen.  8O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130068" rel="nofollow">The How-To Geek wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they’ll have an excuse to talk to me. That’s really the only logical explanation for how they’d continually be infected. =P</p></blockquote>
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<p>The thing that amazes me is how people can actually be productive when they have 5 toolbars installed in Internet Explorer. They normally take up over half of the screen.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt='8O' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The How-To Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>The How-To Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An operating system is only as secure as the amount of spyware the users willingly install...

Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they&#039;ll have an excuse to talk to me. That&#039;s really the only logical explanation for how they&#039;d continually be infected. =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An operating system is only as secure as the amount of spyware the users willingly install&#8230;</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they&#8217;ll have an excuse to talk to me. That&#8217;s really the only logical explanation for how they&#8217;d continually be infected. =P</p>
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