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		<title>By: &#187; Links for 10-11-2006 &#187; Velcro City Tourist Board &#187; Blog Archive</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Links for 10-11-2006 &#187; Velcro City Tourist Board &#187; Blog Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 18 - 12 Year Old Writes 20,000 Lines Of Code For A Web Browser &#8220;The project is currently 88% complete but he is looking for some beta testers to find any bugs that may be in the program before it is released.&#8221; This is either a hoax or quite astonishing, or possibly both. (tags: Rajca Mateus AuroraBrowser browser web development software coding programming youth) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 18 &#8211; 12 Year Old Writes 20,000 Lines Of Code For A Web Browser &#8220;The project is currently 88% complete but he is looking for some beta testers to find any bugs that may be in the program before it is released.&#8221; This is either a hoax or quite astonishing, or possibly both. (tags: Rajca Mateus AuroraBrowser browser web development software coding programming youth) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MetaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impressive.  When I was 12 I could barely do HTML :oops:.  Congratulations to this kid.  However, I don&#039;t think I will be switching from Firefox any time soon ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive.  When I was 12 I could barely do HTML <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Congratulations to this kid.  However, I don&#8217;t think I will be switching from Firefox any time soon <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34300&quot;&gt;SLA wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;:D I just registered on your website. Will this help me avoid anti-spam protection in the future?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Our spam filter doesn&#039;t look at whether a user is registered or not but you won&#039;t have to do the math anymore to get your comment approved. I would change it so that registered users don&#039;t get filtered but I don&#039;t want that to lead to spammers creating accounts.

&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34300&quot;&gt;SLA wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW, I think, &quot;CybetNet News&quot; is my favorite blog, because I check it about 5-10 times per day. There are some other good blogs for me, but this one is the best :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-34300">SLA wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote> <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I just registered on your website. Will this help me avoid anti-spam protection in the future?</p></blockquote>
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<p>Our spam filter doesn&#8217;t look at whether a user is registered or not but you won&#8217;t have to do the math anymore to get your comment approved. I would change it so that registered users don&#8217;t get filtered but I don&#8217;t want that to lead to spammers creating accounts.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-34300">SLA wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>BTW, I think, &#8220;CybetNet News&#8221; is my favorite blog, because I check it about 5-10 times per day. There are some other good blogs for me, but this one is the best <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>We are glad that you love our site so much and this actually isn&#8217;t our full-time job yet. Within the next six months Ashley and I will both be working on it full-time so that we can provide more quality content to the readers. Thanks for all of your kind words SLA!</p>
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		<title>By: SLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> :D I just registered on your website. Will this help me avoid anti-spam protection in the future?
BTW, I think, &quot;CybetNet News&quot; is my favorite blog, because I check it about 5-10 times per day. There are some other good blogs for me, but this one is the best :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I just registered on your website. Will this help me avoid anti-spam protection in the future?<br />
BTW, I think, &#8220;CybetNet News&#8221; is my favorite blog, because I check it about 5-10 times per day. There are some other good blogs for me, but this one is the best <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34293&quot;&gt;SLA wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It is also very simple to check, is it IE-wrapper or not. Just go to, for example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Acid2 Test&lt;/a&gt; page, look what you get, and compare it to your IE results.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That is a very good point and hopefully Jeff can try that out to let us know what the results are.

&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34294&quot;&gt;SLA wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Ryan! where is my super-long post which I just posted, your anti-spam protection ate it? :(&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Sometimes my spam protection likes to get ahead of itself but I despammified (I like making up words) the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-34293">SLA wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>It is also very simple to check, is it IE-wrapper or not. Just go to, for example, [<a href='http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html' rel='nofollow'>webstandards.org</a>] page, look what you get, and compare it to your IE results.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That is a very good point and hopefully Jeff can try that out to let us know what the results are.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-34294">SLA wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Ryan! where is my super-long post which I just posted, your anti-spam protection ate it? <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>Sometimes my spam protection likes to get ahead of itself but I despammified (I like making up words) the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: SLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan! where is my super-long post which I just posted, your anti-spam protection ate it? :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan! where is my super-long post which I just posted, your anti-spam protection ate it? <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It probably can&#039;t become the &quot;fastest&quot; browser on the earth, because .NET Framework uses JIT (just-in-time) compiler, it is something like Java, so it is slow.

20000 lines of code is not enough to create a full-featured browser. I believe, it is a IE7 wrapper.

By the way, all modern IDEs (Integrated Development Environments) uses something like WYSIWYG form editor with all those drag-and-drop functionality. And those &quot;form designers&quot; are creating a LOTS of code automatically. For example, it is possible to create a simple &quot;Hello world!&quot; application in C#, which will have 200 lines of code created automatically, and only 1 line created by human.

It is also very simple to check, is it IE-wrapper or not. Just go to, for example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Acid2 Test&lt;/a&gt; page, look what you get, and compare it to your IE results.

Anyway, I found this browser&#039;s interface very interesting, because it is something very fresh and original. So I would like to take a look at this browser. 

I have filled in the request form, but still no response. And I&#039;m sure I WILL NOT GET IT, because kid&#039;s website just got some thousands requests today...
So, can anybody just upload it into some file sharing website, and post a link here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It probably can&#8217;t become the &#8220;fastest&#8221; browser on the earth, because .NET Framework uses JIT (just-in-time) compiler, it is something like Java, so it is slow.</p>
<p>20000 lines of code is not enough to create a full-featured browser. I believe, it is a IE7 wrapper.</p>
<p>By the way, all modern IDEs (Integrated Development Environments) uses something like WYSIWYG form editor with all those drag-and-drop functionality. And those &#8220;form designers&#8221; are creating a LOTS of code automatically. For example, it is possible to create a simple &#8220;Hello world!&#8221; application in C#, which will have 200 lines of code created automatically, and only 1 line created by human.</p>
<p>It is also very simple to check, is it IE-wrapper or not. Just go to, for example, [<a href='http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html' rel='nofollow'>webstandards.org</a>] page, look what you get, and compare it to your IE results.</p>
<p>Anyway, I found this browser&#8217;s interface very interesting, because it is something very fresh and original. So I would like to take a look at this browser. </p>
<p>I have filled in the request form, but still no response. And I&#8217;m sure I WILL NOT GET IT, because kid&#8217;s website just got some thousands requests today&#8230;<br />
So, can anybody just upload it into some file sharing website, and post a link here?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that works fine then it must be the IE rendering engine.  :cry:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that works fine then it must be the IE rendering engine.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He must be using the IE rendering engine because I went to the new Virutal Earth 3D site of Live.com and I had no trouble viewing the 3D maps which as we know it only works with IE6 &amp; IE7 unless there is another explanation?  I am writing this using the Aurora Browser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He must be using the IE rendering engine because I went to the new Virutal Earth 3D site of Live.com and I had no trouble viewing the 3D maps which as we know it only works with IE6 &amp; IE7 unless there is another explanation?  I am writing this using the Aurora Browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34243&quot;&gt;Rub3X wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;That&#039;s nothing special, it&#039;s just an IE wrapper.  Not to rip on him, but most 12 year olds can do something like this.  To make a basic browser like his is about 10 lines of code.  It uses .net framework which just drags and drops the browser onto his app.  Uses IE to render the pages..&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I originally thought that is what he did as well, but if it is really 20,000 lines of code I am sure he isn&#039;t using the IE rendering engine. That is one reason why I want to test it out.

&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-34251&quot;&gt;Stuffie wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The browser buttons (back/forward/reload) have just been ripped off of &lt;a href=&quot;http://caminobrowser.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Camino&lt;/a&gt;. That&#039;s not cool.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Wow, you&#039;re right and that really isn&#039;t cool. Hopefully they are just temporary and he is going to replace them before he releases it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-34243">Rub3X wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>That&#8217;s nothing special, it&#8217;s just an IE wrapper.  Not to rip on him, but most 12 year olds can do something like this.  To make a basic browser like his is about 10 lines of code.  It uses .net framework which just drags and drops the browser onto his app.  Uses IE to render the pages..</p></blockquote>
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<p>I originally thought that is what he did as well, but if it is really 20,000 lines of code I am sure he isn&#8217;t using the IE rendering engine. That is one reason why I want to test it out.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-34251">Stuffie wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>The browser buttons (back/forward/reload) have just been ripped off of [<a href='http://caminobrowser.org/.' rel='nofollow'>caminobrowser.org</a>] That&#8217;s not cool.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Wow, you&#8217;re right and that really isn&#8217;t cool. Hopefully they are just temporary and he is going to replace them before he releases it.</p>
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