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		<title>By: MetaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-85103&quot;&gt;Ryan wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t even think that a program like DVD Shrink would be able to do much justice when it came to making the download more bearable. Anything over 4GB just seems like too much for me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

Ryan, you wouldn&#039;t download such a file while you&#039;re &lt;em&gt;using the computer&lt;/em&gt;. If you had to leave for the day, you would set the download up, and then come back later to a &lt;strong&gt;free movie!&lt;/strong&gt; ;).

Of course media DRM is not about piracy. The MPAA and the RIAA both know that real media pirates are very tech-savy users, and that it would be impossible for them to stop the pirating. Then again, pirates might not steal content if they knew they would only have to buy it once. For example, there are people who use LimeWire because they know that if they use iTunes, they will only be able to use their songs on some computers and only with iPods. And with the whole,lax-iTunes DRM thing in the article, all they are accomplishing is giving people an excuse to rip their DVDs onto their iPods &lt;em&gt;without any DRM at all&lt;/em&gt;. Then again, that might not be a bad thing. After all, you should only have to buy your content &lt;strong&gt;once&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-85103">Ryan wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I don&#8217;t even think that a program like DVD Shrink would be able to do much justice when it came to making the download more bearable. Anything over 4GB just seems like too much for me.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Ryan, you wouldn&#8217;t download such a file while you&#8217;re <em>using the computer</em>. If you had to leave for the day, you would set the download up, and then come back later to a <strong>free movie!</strong> <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Of course media DRM is not about piracy. The MPAA and the RIAA both know that real media pirates are very tech-savy users, and that it would be impossible for them to stop the pirating. Then again, pirates might not steal content if they knew they would only have to buy it once. For example, there are people who use LimeWire because they know that if they use iTunes, they will only be able to use their songs on some computers and only with iPods. And with the whole,lax-iTunes DRM thing in the article, all they are accomplishing is giving people an excuse to rip their DVDs onto their iPods <em>without any DRM at all</em>. Then again, that might not be a bad thing. After all, you should only have to buy your content <strong>once</strong>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81531&quot;&gt;CoryC wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Now what we need is something like DVDShrink but for HD DVD.  That 19 GB file would be a &lt;em&gt;slim&lt;/em&gt; 9.5 GB.  It would only take half-of-forever to download it. :P&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I don&#039;t even think that a program like DVD Shrink would be able to do much justice when it came to making the download more bearable. Anything over 4GB just seems like too much for me.

&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-82202&quot;&gt;CoryC wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s the fair use that worries them, not the piracy. Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8616.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Privately, Hollywood admits DRM isn&#039;t about piracy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That was a really interesting article, never really thought about it not being for piracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-81531">CoryC wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Now what we need is something like DVDShrink but for HD DVD.  That 19 GB file would be a <em>slim</em> 9.5 GB.  It would only take half-of-forever to download it. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>I don&#8217;t even think that a program like DVD Shrink would be able to do much justice when it came to making the download more bearable. Anything over 4GB just seems like too much for me.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-82202">CoryC wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>It&#8217;s the fair use that worries them, not the piracy. Check out [<a href='http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8616.html' rel='nofollow'>arstechnica.com</a>]</p></blockquote>
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<p>That was a really interesting article, never really thought about it not being for piracy.</p>
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		<title>By: MetaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, CoryC, for that article. I always find such things interesting. I would like to point out, though, that I was not only talking about media DRM, but software DRM as well. Software DRM is used to stop piracy (ineffectively). I should not have grouped the two types of DRM together, they are very fundamentally different, though both equally ineffective.

I would also like to share my opinion that Hollywood is very idiotic on this issue. Even if friends can share movies via iTunes, they are still buying the movies. They are losing an opportunity to vastly increase sales. Also,  allowing people to sample your work might encourage them to buy it in the future. We should send these execs to some high-school-level economics classes. Maybe Honors, or possibly AP ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, CoryC, for that article. I always find such things interesting. I would like to point out, though, that I was not only talking about media DRM, but software DRM as well. Software DRM is used to stop piracy (ineffectively). I should not have grouped the two types of DRM together, they are very fundamentally different, though both equally ineffective.</p>
<p>I would also like to share my opinion that Hollywood is very idiotic on this issue. Even if friends can share movies via iTunes, they are still buying the movies. They are losing an opportunity to vastly increase sales. Also,  allowing people to sample your work might encourage them to buy it in the future. We should send these execs to some high-school-level economics classes. Maybe Honors, or possibly AP <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-81547&quot;&gt;MetaMan wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It was only a matter of time. There is no such thing as effective DRM, and there never will be. Honestly, every company that uses any form of DRM should just give it up. They spend so much money developing and licensing the software, and it doesn&#039;t stop anyone from pirating. All it does is occasionally annoy legitimate users who just want to use their fair use rights.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;


It&#039;s the fair use that worries them, not the piracy. Check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8616.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Privately, Hollywood admits DRM isn&#039;t about piracy&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-81547">MetaMan wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>It was only a matter of time. There is no such thing as effective DRM, and there never will be. Honestly, every company that uses any form of DRM should just give it up. They spend so much money developing and licensing the software, and it doesn&#8217;t stop anyone from pirating. All it does is occasionally annoy legitimate users who just want to use their fair use rights.</p></blockquote>
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<p>It&#8217;s the fair use that worries them, not the piracy. Check out [<a href='http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8616.html' rel='nofollow'>arstechnica.com</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: MetaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 04:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was only a matter of time. There is no such thing as effective DRM, and there never will be. Honestly, every company that uses any form of DRM should just give it up. They spend so much money developing and licensing the software, and it doesn&#039;t stop anyone from pirating. All it does is occasionally annoy legitimate users who just want to use their fair use rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was only a matter of time. There is no such thing as effective DRM, and there never will be. Honestly, every company that uses any form of DRM should just give it up. They spend so much money developing and licensing the software, and it doesn&#8217;t stop anyone from pirating. All it does is occasionally annoy legitimate users who just want to use their fair use rights.</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now what we need is something like DVDShrink but for HD DVD.  That 19 GB file would be a &lt;em&gt;slim&lt;/em&gt; 9.5 GB.  It would only take half-of-forever to download it. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now what we need is something like DVDShrink but for HD DVD.  That 19 GB file would be a <em>slim</em> 9.5 GB.  It would only take half-of-forever to download it. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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