Comments on: CyberNet’s First Optional Sidebar Add-On: Unread Comments

By: SLA

SLA — Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:06:05 +0000

Losing browser market share stimulates IE development. Maybe one day IE will become standard compliant browser too…… I’m praying to Gods for this.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:44:55 +0000

It would be awesome if we only had to develop for Firefox and Opera, but as long as Windows is the dominant operating system I think their browser will be too.

By: SLA

SLA — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:08:29 +0000

Ryan wrote:

If only Web design decisions were as simple as that…pick a browser and code only for that browser.

Many web-designers do that. (Or did in the past.) Remember all those “IE ONLY” websites? But that is definitely wrong, and I don’t recommend coding something for a single browser.

BTW, here is a nice comment from CNET News, which I have bookmarked 2 years ago:

How to fix “IE Only” sites :D (it is short comment, please read)

In other hand, it would be MUCH EASIER for web-developers, if they could DROP only one single “wrong” browser (Internet Explorer, of course), and create code for standard compliant browsers only (all other major browsers here).

By: natmaster

natmaster — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:14:21 +0000

Adding this feature for Firefox does not reduce other browsers at all. They still have the same functionality that exists now. I don’t see what’s wrong with that…

By: Ryan

Ryan — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:49:15 +0000

natmaster wrote:

Obviously drag&drop support is an optional enhancement - so you needn’t worry about it working on all browsers. Just write it for Firefox!

If only Web design decisions were as simple as that…pick a browser and code only for that browser.

By: natmaster

natmaster — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:29:54 +0000

Obviously drag&drop support is an optional enhancement - so you needn’t worry about it working on all browsers. Just write it for Firefox!

By: Ryan

Ryan — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:49:29 +0000

Yeah, I wouldn’t do any of the AJAX stuff simply because the available drag&drop methods in JavaScript don’t mesh well across browsers. I haven’t played with the JavaScript needed to do the move up/down/left/right command, but I can’t imagine it would be that hard. That’s definitely my next project though. If you have seen any scripts that might be helpful in setting it up please let me know.

By: SLA

SLA — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:33:56 +0000

Thank you, very nice feature Now how about adding one more feature: ability to rearrange sidebar items (moving them to left or right column, and moving them up and down in the column).

Now when I have turned off some sidebar items, my left column looks much longer than right one. If there would be rearrangement feature, I could balance it, also put more important items on the top, so it could be perfect.

Edit: Oh, sorry, I just observed that other people asked for this feature too.

That will definitely be coming but I just have to experiment with how I want to do it. I know that there is some JavaScript available to let users drag and drop things but Iâ€™m not sure if I want to do it that way or not. Either way, it would be something that is done from the administration screen rather than from the website directly.

Of course it should work only via Administration / Customize Sidebars screen. Don’t do anything too complex (like AJAX drag&drop), just make it similar to Firefox “Manage Search Engines” window. With simple buttons [Move Up], [Move Down], [Move Left], [Move Right].

By: Ryan

Ryan — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:48:15 +0000

CoryC wrote:

And second, as you had mention in a previous post, the ability to reposition the sideboard add-ons similar to Google’s Personalized Home Page.

That will definitely be coming but I just have to experiment with how I want to do it. I know that there is some JavaScript available to let users drag and drop things but I’m not sure if I want to do it that way or not. Either way, it would be something that is done from the administration screen rather than from the website directly.

natmaster wrote:

I like the whole idea of a customizable website. Even with something as simple as a blog, it makes sense to give users more control… now if there were only some way to standardize this control so a user can set his prefs for every website from their browser.

Sounds like something I could see Mozilla doing: creating locally customizable websites. Of course I guess that is kinda what the Greasemonkey extension does but in a slightly different way. I’m glad you like the new option!

By: natmaster

natmaster — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:49:52 +0000

I like the whole idea of a customizable website. Even with something as simple as a blog, it makes sense to give users more control… now if there were only some way to standardize this control so a user can set his prefs for every website from their browser.

By: Ashley

Ashley — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:45:56 +0000

First, a link has been added so it says- “there are still more unread comments” which will take you to the management screen.

And as for the second request with the ability to reposition the sidebar add-ons… it’ll probably take a little while to get that one figured out. Thanks for the feedback!

By: CoryC

CoryC — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:38:11 +0000

Sweet, and for my next request….

First, how about the “You still have more comments…” to link to the Management screen where more comments are shown.

And second, as you had mention in a previous post, the ability to reposition the sideboard add-ons similar to Google’s Personalized Home Page.

Thanks for the quick turn-around on the new module.