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		<title>By: dell online store</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi. Thanks for the good read....</description>
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<p>Hi. Thanks for the good read&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id="commentquote"&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-99019"&gt;Chris Rossini wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps someday Dell will receive enough complaints to stop loading the computers with so much crap.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
After I got to thinking about it I almost felt bad picking on Dell so badly though, because they definitely aren't the only ones that do this. They just get the most criticism because they let users configure their PC's, where companies like HP and Sony sell preconfigured units.

&lt;div id="commentquote"&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-99036"&gt;OldManDeath wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I would gladly pay up to $25 to have a clean system without all the bloat crap on it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I think I would go up to $50 to get a perfectly clean system, which I would think would cover the kickbacks that they are getting from the software companies.

&lt;div id="commentquote"&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-99074"&gt;amak wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I am glad that my stepdad taught me how to build a pc. dont need to worry about all the bloat;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That is definitely a good thing, and everytime that I want to build a PC I find out that I could just buy a Dell with the same specs for less. Of course that is normally with some extreme PC sale going on, but nevertheless it costs me less.

&lt;div id="commentquote"&gt;&lt;a href="#comment-99097"&gt;CoryC wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I've seen this happen to several users who have ask me to fix their computer.  It came to no surprise that a virus is often the cause of the problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Argh, I'm all to familiar with seeing this on other people's computers. The first thing that I do is install a free antivirus application since theirs is normally several months outdated. At least the subscription that Dell ships is good for 15 months, where awhile ago it was only 3 to 6 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-99019">Chris Rossini wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Perhaps someday Dell will receive enough complaints to stop loading the computers with so much crap.</p></blockquote>
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<p>After I got to thinking about it I almost felt bad picking on Dell so badly though, because they definitely aren&#8217;t the only ones that do this. They just get the most criticism because they let users configure their PC&#8217;s, where companies like HP and Sony sell preconfigured units.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-99036">OldManDeath wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I would gladly pay up to $25 to have a clean system without all the bloat crap on it.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I think I would go up to $50 to get a perfectly clean system, which I would think would cover the kickbacks that they are getting from the software companies.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-99074">amak wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I am glad that my stepdad taught me how to build a pc. dont need to worry about all the bloat;)</p></blockquote>
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<p>That is definitely a good thing, and everytime that I want to build a PC I find out that I could just buy a Dell with the same specs for less. Of course that is normally with some extreme PC sale going on, but nevertheless it costs me less.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-99097">CoryC wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I&#8217;ve seen this happen to several users who have ask me to fix their computer.  It came to no surprise that a virus is often the cause of the problem.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Argh, I&#8217;m all to familiar with seeing this on other people&#8217;s computers. The first thing that I do is install a free antivirus application since theirs is normally several months outdated. At least the subscription that Dell ships is good for 15 months, where awhile ago it was only 3 to 6 months.</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I've noticed with pre-installed antivirus applications is that many users don't realize that the software has expired (or the definitions no longer get updated).  They think their system came with it for free and are protected.

I've seen this happen to several users who have ask me to fix their computer.  It came to no surprise that a virus is often the cause of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I&#8217;ve noticed with pre-installed antivirus applications is that many users don&#8217;t realize that the software has expired (or the definitions no longer get updated).  They think their system came with it for free and are protected.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen this happen to several users who have ask me to fix their computer.  It came to no surprise that a virus is often the cause of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: amak</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad that my stepdad taught me how to build a pc. dont need to worry about all the bloat;)

and i agree with OldMan: if i were ever to buy a pre-built pc, id pay extra for JUST the os and no other bloat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that my stepdad taught me how to build a pc. dont need to worry about all the bloat;)</p>
<p>and i agree with OldMan: if i were ever to buy a pre-built pc, id pay extra for JUST the os and no other bloat.</p>
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		<title>By: OldManDeath</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one do not think any software that you do not specifically select in the configuration process should be installed other than the OS.  However, I do understand that they get monetary kickbacks which helps them sell cheaper computers.

however, having said all that, I would gladly pay up to $25 to have a clean system without all the bloat crap on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one do not think any software that you do not specifically select in the configuration process should be installed other than the OS.  However, I do understand that they get monetary kickbacks which helps them sell cheaper computers.</p>
<p>however, having said all that, I would gladly pay up to $25 to have a clean system without all the bloat crap on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rossini</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are some great ideas Ryan. I particularly like the idea of picking the software before it leaves the factory.

Unfortunately, in my experiences with new computer users, I've noticed that they really don't know the difference. They see a bunch of icons on their desktop and think that this is just they way it is.  If I were to tell them about "bloat," they'd probably look at me funny. So this ignorance works to the advantage of the status quo. 

Perhaps someday Dell will receive enough complaints to stop loading the computers with so much crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are some great ideas Ryan. I particularly like the idea of picking the software before it leaves the factory.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in my experiences with new computer users, I&#8217;ve noticed that they really don&#8217;t know the difference. They see a bunch of icons on their desktop and think that this is just they way it is.  If I were to tell them about &#8220;bloat,&#8221; they&#8217;d probably look at me funny. So this ignorance works to the advantage of the status quo. </p>
<p>Perhaps someday Dell will receive enough complaints to stop loading the computers with so much crap.</p>
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