Comments on: Opera 9.23 Released - Mum’s the Word on Opera 9.5 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/ Technology News Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:39:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: robbie http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113642 robbie Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:40:34 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113642 Opera remembers passwords for every single site I'm using. Opera remembers passwords for every single site I’m using.

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113521 Ryan Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:31:21 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113521 [div id=commentquote]<a href="#comment-113485" rel="nofollow">edwest wrote:</a><blockquote>Has Opera gotten any better with remembering & instituting passwords? The last time I tried it, it was quite poor & of course, RoboForm won’t work in Opera.</blockquote>[/div] It works with almost all the sites I use, but they could still make it a little more full featured. edwest wrote:
Has Opera gotten any better with remembering & instituting passwords?
The last time I tried it, it was quite poor & of course, RoboForm won’t work in Opera.

It works with almost all the sites I use, but they could still make it a little more full featured.

]]> By: edwest http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113485 edwest Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:38:01 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113485 Has Opera gotten any better with remembering & instituting passwords? The last time I tried it, it was quite poor & of course, RoboForm won't work in Opera. Has Opera gotten any better with remembering & instituting passwords?
The last time I tried it, it was quite poor & of course, RoboForm won’t work in Opera.

]]> By: meh http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113479 meh Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:21:03 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113479 There were lots of complaints about off-topic comments destroying the on-topic discussion. Now the off-topic posters are complaining because the rules are being enforced. Can't please everyone... fearphage, if you aren't getting a response just accept it and move on. You can't possibly expect Opera to respond to every single comment, especially with all the off-topic trash talk going on. In fact, you are probably far less likely to get a response with all the off-topic comments. Poor signal to noise ratio and all that. When the rules are enforced there are fewer (nonsensical) comments, which increases your chances of getting a useful response. So don't complain before you realize that your posting off-topic comments is contributing to people ignoring you. There were lots of complaints about off-topic comments destroying the on-topic discussion. Now the off-topic posters are complaining because the rules are being enforced. Can’t please everyone…

fearphage, if you aren’t getting a response just accept it and move on. You can’t possibly expect Opera to respond to every single comment, especially with all the off-topic trash talk going on.

In fact, you are probably far less likely to get a response with all the off-topic comments. Poor signal to noise ratio and all that. When the rules are enforced there are fewer (nonsensical) comments, which increases your chances of getting a useful response.

So don’t complain before you realize that your posting off-topic comments is contributing to people ignoring you.

]]> By: Tim Altman http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113477 Tim Altman Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:49:35 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113477 Ryan: We're working on a FAQ for the Desktop Team blog that should help users decide where to post. Unfortunately, I don't think it'll be available before the first weekly of Kestrel. Ryan: We’re working on a FAQ for the Desktop Team blog that should help users decide where to post. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’ll be available before the first weekly of Kestrel.

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113476 Ryan Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:39:26 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113476 Thanks for the repsonse Tim! I agree with the deleting those comments from people who were always saying things like "First!" because they added no value to the post. I still believe that any discussions regarding Opera 9.5 should remain untouched though, because it just builds excitement about your own product. It's understandable that you want to use the comments area as a location for people to give feedback on the weekly releases, but as fearphage said there really aren't that many places for people to just express their excitement for Kestrel. Sure there are the forums and stuff, but sometimes it's just nice to jump in and say "I'm still on the edge of my seat waiting for 9.5!" Maybe there should be a big banner on the homepage of the Desktop Team blog pointing to a location where we can leave comments regarding Opera 9.5, and a good spot for that would probably be on the primary Kestrel post that you had done. Thanks for the repsonse Tim! I agree with the deleting those comments from people who were always saying things like “First!” because they added no value to the post. I still believe that any discussions regarding Opera 9.5 should remain untouched though, because it just builds excitement about your own product.

It’s understandable that you want to use the comments area as a location for people to give feedback on the weekly releases, but as fearphage said there really aren’t that many places for people to just express their excitement for Kestrel. Sure there are the forums and stuff, but sometimes it’s just nice to jump in and say “I’m still on the edge of my seat waiting for 9.5!”

Maybe there should be a big banner on the homepage of the Desktop Team blog pointing to a location where we can leave comments regarding Opera 9.5, and a good spot for that would probably be on the primary Kestrel post that you had done.

]]> By: fearphage http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113473 fearphage Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:04:17 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113473 Sadly, if you do go back to older posts that concerned kestrel and post inquiries or other thoughts about kestrel, they will probably be not seen or ignored. I speak from experience. I tried doing things the right way and still I get no response. It seems to be a lose-lose situation. I have to wait until the dev team says I can talk about kestrel. Sadly, if you do go back to older posts that concerned kestrel and post inquiries or other thoughts about kestrel, they will probably be not seen or ignored. I speak from experience. I tried doing things the right way and still I get no response. It seems to be a lose-lose situation. I have to wait until the dev team says I can talk about kestrel.

]]> By: Tim Altman http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113472 Tim Altman Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:57:19 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/08/15/opera-923-released-mums-the-word-on-opera-95/#comment-113472 Ryan: I work for Opera Software in the Desktop QA dept. and I'm most likely the one that deleted your comment. Feedback from our users is very important to us. Recently, we've released several 9.2x preview releases via the Desktop Team blog to help improve the final releases. The blog posts about those weeklies were inundated with off-topic comments, making it more difficult for us to locate and respond to those that are providing us with feedback about the weekly releases. That's why many off-topic comments have been deleted. If you follow the Desktop Team blog, you may remember when it was similarly inundated with comments saying, "First!", "Tenth!", etc. These comments were also deleted and that issue has largely gone away. We're not trying to censor posts about Kestrel, but rather to have feedback in the appropriate place. There have been several recent blog posts on the Desktop Team blog about 9.5 (code-named Kestrel) and discussion of Kestrel in those posts is exactly what we're looking for. We also have very active forums and newsgroups, which are a great place for discussions about future releases, such as Kestrel. Thank you for your enthusiasm and patience. Ryan: I work for Opera Software in the Desktop QA dept. and I’m most likely the one that deleted your comment. Feedback from our users is very important to us. Recently, we’ve released several 9.2x preview releases via the Desktop Team blog to help improve the final releases. The blog posts about those weeklies were inundated with off-topic comments, making it more difficult for us to locate and respond to those that are providing us with feedback about the weekly releases. That’s why many off-topic comments have been deleted.

If you follow the Desktop Team blog, you may remember when it was similarly inundated with comments saying, “First!”, “Tenth!”, etc. These comments were also deleted and that issue has largely gone away.

We’re not trying to censor posts about Kestrel, but rather to have feedback in the appropriate place. There have been several recent blog posts on the Desktop Team blog about 9.5 (code-named Kestrel) and discussion of Kestrel in those posts is exactly what we’re looking for. We also have very active forums and newsgroups, which are a great place for discussions about future releases, such as Kestrel.

Thank you for your enthusiasm and patience.

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