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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116675</link>
		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new "better" format that quicken came up with also required a changed in the license agreement.  Financial institution's have to pay more money than before to use the new format.  That's why the new format hasn't came along, why some banks charge a fee for downloading statement in the quicken format, and why some banks don't offer statement downloads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new &#8220;better&#8221; format that quicken came up with also required a changed in the license agreement.  Financial institution&#8217;s have to pay more money than before to use the new format.  That&#8217;s why the new format hasn&#8217;t came along, why some banks charge a fee for downloading statement in the quicken format, and why some banks don&#8217;t offer statement downloads.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116614</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is disappointing. I didn't realize that Microsoft Money wasn't for a global market, and it is a problem that Quicken can't import the common data types anymore. They decided to ditch the common files and replace it with a newer "better" format that hasn't quite caught on. To help push it along they cut out support for that type of file from the application, and I'm guessing that's the problem you're having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is disappointing. I didn&#8217;t realize that Microsoft Money wasn&#8217;t for a global market, and it is a problem that Quicken can&#8217;t import the common data types anymore. They decided to ditch the common files and replace it with a newer &#8220;better&#8221; format that hasn&#8217;t quite caught on. To help push it along they cut out support for that type of file from the application, and I&#8217;m guessing that&#8217;s the problem you&#8217;re having.</p>
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		<title>By: satur9</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116513</link>
		<dc:creator>satur9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, well, that was quite the disappointment. Both are really focussed on the American market. MS Money: trials only for US citizens. Quicken: I can't import my bank data. So I'll stick to AceMoney, which I did like a lot :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, well, that was quite the disappointment. Both are really focussed on the American market. MS Money: trials only for US citizens. Quicken: I can&#8217;t import my bank data. So I&#8217;ll stick to AceMoney, which I did like a lot <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: satur9</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116506</link>
		<dc:creator>satur9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, thanks!  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, thanks!  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116491</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-116413" rel="nofollow"&gt;satur9 wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ll give them a try too, if I can find a trial version of Quicken that is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
http://quicken.intuit.com/free-trial-download.jhtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-116413" rel="nofollow">satur9 wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I’ll give them a try too, if I can find a trial version of Quicken that is.</p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://quicken.intuit.com/free-trial-download.jhtml" rel="nofollow">http://quicken.intuit.com/free.....load.jhtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: satur9</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116413</link>
		<dc:creator>satur9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll give them a try too, if I can find a trial version of Quicken that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give them a try too, if I can find a trial version of Quicken that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116371</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-116298" rel="nofollow"&gt;satur9 wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, I think I’ll stick with AceMoney. It does just what I need, has some great report functions, and is easy to use. I might even buy the paid version, multiple accounts will be useful - managing a family of 6 isn’t always simple 8)&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Have you thought about picking up Quicken or Microsoft Money if you're going to spend money on the software anyways? They don't cost that much more and they are both very respected pieces of software, and between the two I prefer Quicken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-116298" rel="nofollow">satur9 wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Well, I think I’ll stick with AceMoney. It does just what I need, has some great report functions, and is easy to use. I might even buy the paid version, multiple accounts will be useful - managing a family of 6 isn’t always simple <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>Have you thought about picking up Quicken or Microsoft Money if you&#8217;re going to spend money on the software anyways? They don&#8217;t cost that much more and they are both very respected pieces of software, and between the two I prefer Quicken.</p>
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		<title>By: satur9</title>
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		<dc:creator>satur9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think I'll stick with AceMoney. It does just what I need, has some great report functions, and is easy to use. I might even buy the paid version, multiple accounts will be useful - managing a family of 6 isn't always simple :mrgreen: and right now anything in dollars is a bargain for us Europeans  8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think I&#8217;ll stick with AceMoney. It does just what I need, has some great report functions, and is easy to use. I might even buy the paid version, multiple accounts will be useful - managing a family of 6 isn&#8217;t always simple <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> and right now anything in dollars is a bargain for us Europeans  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116194</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem...let us know how they work out for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem&#8230;let us know how they work out for you.</p>
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		<title>By: satur9</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116141</link>
		<dc:creator>satur9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you both Scott and Ryan for the tips! At the moment I'm trying out both AceMoney and Wesabe. I'm a bit reluctant for the website-stuff, but Wesabe is actually a lot of fun, so I'm doubting. AceMoney needs a bit of figuring out, but it certainly looks good, much better than anything I've tried out before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you both Scott and Ryan for the tips! At the moment I&#8217;m trying out both AceMoney and Wesabe. I&#8217;m a bit reluctant for the website-stuff, but Wesabe is actually a lot of fun, so I&#8217;m doubting. AceMoney needs a bit of figuring out, but it certainly looks good, much better than anything I&#8217;ve tried out before.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-116109</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-115989" rel="nofollow"&gt;CoryC wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Does it allow users to create a budget like Microsoft Money does? A budget tracking tools is a must for me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Not that I saw.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-116006" rel="nofollow"&gt;Anne wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d rather have a programme, but if there’s nothing that meets my needs around, I’d go for a website.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Here's a free program (a lite version) that I've heard is decent:
http://www.mechcad.net/products/acemoney/index_lite.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-115989" rel="nofollow">CoryC wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Does it allow users to create a budget like Microsoft Money does? A budget tracking tools is a must for me.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Not that I saw.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-116006" rel="nofollow">Anne wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I’d rather have a programme, but if there’s nothing that meets my needs around, I’d go for a website.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a free program (a lite version) that I&#8217;ve heard is decent:<br />
<a href="http://www.mechcad.net/products/acemoney/index_lite.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.mechcad.net/product.....lite.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scott: thanks for the tips, I'm checking them out!
@Ashley: I'd rather have a programme, but if there's nothing that meets my needs around, I'd go for a website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scott: thanks for the tips, I&#8217;m checking them out!<br />
@Ashley: I&#8217;d rather have a programme, but if there&#8217;s nothing that meets my needs around, I&#8217;d go for a website.</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it allow users to create a budget like Microsoft Money does? A budget tracking tools is a must for me.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/09/22/cybernotes-online-finance-management-with-mint/#comment-115977</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-115958" rel="nofollow"&gt;satur9 wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve been looking for something like this for quite a while now, but haven’t been successful. Mint won’t do it for me either: it’s for the U.S. Does anyone have any suggestions for a programme to keep track of finances, but then for Europeans? Or for Belgium :-)&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Aare you looking for a program or for a website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-115958" rel="nofollow">satur9 wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I’ve been looking for something like this for quite a while now, but haven’t been successful. Mint won’t do it for me either: it’s for the U.S. Does anyone have any suggestions for a programme to keep track of finances, but then for Europeans? Or for Belgium <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>Aare you looking for a program or for a website?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ashley:
Thanks for the overview.  I'd love to see a comparison of the top 5 online accounting sites...   :o)

One such site I've been testing is ClearCheckbook.com - what I like about this one is that it specifically *discourages* you from entering ANY account numbers for your financial institutions.  Of course, that means there are no automatic downloads of your financial information, and none of the other aggregate features of the other similar sites.  On the other hand, no account numbers means less risk!  Features: track, balance, and upload an unlimited number of checking, savings, and credit card accounts; import existing bank records; reminders; set an unlimited number of categories; set spending limits; and it's 100% free.


satur9:

You may want to check out Wesabe (wesabe.com) or Buxfer (buxfer.com).  With a quick look at the FAQ sections on each site, I didn't see "US only," but I'm not certain what restrictions each may have...  On Wesabe's signup page, I did see a "Country" section, which may indicate that any country listed is eligible...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley:<br />
Thanks for the overview.  I&#8217;d love to see a comparison of the top 5 online accounting sites&#8230;   :o)</p>
<p>One such site I&#8217;ve been testing is ClearCheckbook.com - what I like about this one is that it specifically *discourages* you from entering ANY account numbers for your financial institutions.  Of course, that means there are no automatic downloads of your financial information, and none of the other aggregate features of the other similar sites.  On the other hand, no account numbers means less risk!  Features: track, balance, and upload an unlimited number of checking, savings, and credit card accounts; import existing bank records; reminders; set an unlimited number of categories; set spending limits; and it&#8217;s 100% free.</p>
<p>satur9:</p>
<p>You may want to check out Wesabe (wesabe.com) or Buxfer (buxfer.com).  With a quick look at the FAQ sections on each site, I didn&#8217;t see &#8220;US only,&#8221; but I&#8217;m not certain what restrictions each may have&#8230;  On Wesabe&#8217;s signup page, I did see a &#8220;Country&#8221; section, which may indicate that any country listed is eligible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: satur9</title>
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		<dc:creator>satur9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been looking for something like this for quite a while now, but haven't been successful. Mint won't do it for me either: it's for the U.S. Does anyone have any suggestions for a programme to keep track of finances, but then for Europeans? Or for Belgium :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been looking for something like this for quite a while now, but haven&#8217;t been successful. Mint won&#8217;t do it for me either: it&#8217;s for the U.S. Does anyone have any suggestions for a programme to keep track of finances, but then for Europeans? Or for Belgium <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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