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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-121120" rel="nofollow"&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, OS X uses ipfw. Unfortunately, just the way we can say that MS has tremendously advanced Windows security in Vista, we cannot say it’s more faster, full-featured out of the box (hint:lame apps) and stable/bug-free. Until SP1 maybe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
You also have to remember that if Microsoft tries to include too many apps with Windows that they'll be slapped with yet another antitrust suit. I think that Apple will eventually hit the point where there development cycle is greatly slowed down by antitrust suits as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-121120" rel="nofollow">Anonymous wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Yes, OS X uses ipfw. Unfortunately, just the way we can say that MS has tremendously advanced Windows security in Vista, we cannot say it’s more faster, full-featured out of the box (hint:lame apps) and stable/bug-free. Until SP1 maybe.</p></blockquote>
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<p>You also have to remember that if Microsoft tries to include too many apps with Windows that they&#8217;ll be slapped with yet another antitrust suit. I think that Apple will eventually hit the point where there development cycle is greatly slowed down by antitrust suits as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stephen
Old saying "one single picture is worth 100.000 words".
I hope it won't be said "one single lack in a mac is worse than 100.000 Windows viruses".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephen<br />
Old saying &#8220;one single picture is worth 100.000 words&#8221;.<br />
I hope it won&#8217;t be said &#8220;one single lack in a mac is worse than 100.000 Windows viruses&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"One of these days!" I have been hearing this one for lots a days, years in fact.

But you are right, one of these days the Mac will have ONE virus. I doubt it can keep up with M$ thousands upon thousands of exploits. 

Old saying: "people in GLASS houses should not throw stones." With Apple's excellent track record of security without a single major exploit, I am not worried. Vista on the other hand as improved as it is had exploits on day one. In fact M$ almost insists that you run anti-virus (they are happy to SELL you theirs). Vista tells you as XP does that you are at risk without anti-virus, until you install it. In 2007, don't you think better security should be built-in. Most OS X users and Linux run no anti-virus at all. While Windows users pay and pay for protection that does not always work and slows their already bloated OS down further. 

When the first OS X major exploit comes, you can say I told you so. And OS X users will say 100,000 to ONE!
[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-121114" rel="nofollow"&gt;jacques wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s a fact, we never hear about Mac viruses or security issues.
But I just cannot believe they are that safe.
You’re right to point out default firewall disabling and so on, like in XP old days.
What’s going to happen if one of these days…
And what about users perception of security and even further why not privacy?
Until that day when Apple will go backwards, somewhat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of these days!&#8221; I have been hearing this one for lots a days, years in fact.</p>
<p>But you are right, one of these days the Mac will have ONE virus. I doubt it can keep up with M$ thousands upon thousands of exploits. </p>
<p>Old saying: &#8220;people in GLASS houses should not throw stones.&#8221; With Apple&#8217;s excellent track record of security without a single major exploit, I am not worried. Vista on the other hand as improved as it is had exploits on day one. In fact M$ almost insists that you run anti-virus (they are happy to SELL you theirs). Vista tells you as XP does that you are at risk without anti-virus, until you install it. In 2007, don&#8217;t you think better security should be built-in. Most OS X users and Linux run no anti-virus at all. While Windows users pay and pay for protection that does not always work and slows their already bloated OS down further. </p>
<p>When the first OS X major exploit comes, you can say I told you so. And OS X users will say 100,000 to ONE!</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-121114" rel="nofollow">jacques wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>That’s a fact, we never hear about Mac viruses or security issues.<br />
But I just cannot believe they are that safe.<br />
You’re right to point out default firewall disabling and so on, like in XP old days.<br />
What’s going to happen if one of these days…<br />
And what about users perception of security and even further why not privacy?<br />
Until that day when Apple will go backwards, somewhat.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, OS X uses ipfw. Unfortunately, just the way we can say that MS has tremendously advanced Windows security in Vista, we cannot say it's more faster, full-featured out of the box (hint:lame apps) and stable/bug-free. Until SP1 maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, OS X uses ipfw. Unfortunately, just the way we can say that MS has tremendously advanced Windows security in Vista, we cannot say it&#8217;s more faster, full-featured out of the box (hint:lame apps) and stable/bug-free. Until SP1 maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know much about Mac OS X.  With that said does Mac OS X use ipchain/iptables like Linux does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know much about Mac OS X.  With that said does Mac OS X use ipchain/iptables like Linux does?</p>
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		<title>By: jacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a fact, we never hear about Mac viruses or security issues.
But I just cannot believe they are that safe.
You're right to point out default firewall disabling and so on, like in XP old days.
What's going to happen if one of these days...
And what about users perception of security and even further why not privacy?
Until that day when Apple will go backwards, somewhat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a fact, we never hear about Mac viruses or security issues.<br />
But I just cannot believe they are that safe.<br />
You&#8217;re right to point out default firewall disabling and so on, like in XP old days.<br />
What&#8217;s going to happen if one of these days&#8230;<br />
And what about users perception of security and even further why not privacy?<br />
Until that day when Apple will go backwards, somewhat.</p>
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