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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/12/06/best-antivirus-programs-fail-vb100/#comment-142226</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL OF YOU ARE BULLSHIT ESET HAS NO WEAKNESS AND IT HAS THE BEST SECURITY EVER BUILT IT SOME FIVE YEARS IT WILL RELEASE IT LATEST DETECTION OF HEURISTICS FOR 99.99 PERCENT OF FREE FROM ANYTHING.

(eset s.p.r.o.l DAVID software progrmmer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL OF YOU ARE BULLSHIT ESET HAS NO WEAKNESS AND IT HAS THE BEST SECURITY EVER BUILT IT SOME FIVE YEARS IT WILL RELEASE IT LATEST DETECTION OF HEURISTICS FOR 99.99 PERCENT OF FREE FROM ANYTHING.</p>
<p>(eset s.p.r.o.l DAVID software progrmmer)</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-137981" rel="nofollow"&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Always used Norton, Always will. I sooner give up some system resources for good protection than use something like AVG.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]

[Poor performance] + [Uses massive system resources] = [Bad anti-virus]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-137981" rel="nofollow">Anonymous wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Always used Norton, Always will. I sooner give up some system resources for good protection than use something like AVG.</p></blockquote>
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<p>[Poor performance] + [Uses massive system resources] = [Bad anti-virus]</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 01:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125837" rel="nofollow"&gt;dtanderson wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Avast! only failed because of 2 false positives?  I don’t find that bad.  I would rather have false positives than misses….&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]

Even if that false positive is a critical operating system file that's gets removed and then the OS won't boot?

Accuracy matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125837" rel="nofollow">dtanderson wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Avast! only failed because of 2 false positives?  I don’t find that bad.  I would rather have false positives than misses….</p></blockquote>
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<p>Even if that false positive is a critical operating system file that&#8217;s gets removed and then the OS won&#8217;t boot?</p>
<p>Accuracy matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 13:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always used Norton, Always will. I sooner give up some system resources for good protection than use something like AVG.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/12/06/best-antivirus-programs-fail-vb100/#comment-126029</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 18:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125880" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fred Thompson wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Sure would be nice if they’d also test the various freeware and shareware Linux firewalls like Astaro.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
They do actually test some of the Linux antivirus applications in a separate test, and I might do a write up about that.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125881" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fred Thompson wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;What difference do the PAST results make? They’re nothing but a slight indicator of PAST performance which isn’t the same as current performance. They’re not even a good predictor of the future. Author X finds his scanner Y failed on virus type Z so he improves the scanner. That was then, this is now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
I have to disagree with that. I think that you can look at the past results as a good indicator of how the apps will perform in the future. Look at how many times ESET has passed compared to the others. That means they have had to fix very little as a result of the tests.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125894" rel="nofollow"&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;My only hope is that ESET won’t be “bought out” by some bloated giant like Symantec.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
That would be absolutely terrible, but I don't think ESET will sell out like that.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125920" rel="nofollow"&gt;Francis Sim wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I think 2 false positives is good enough for me to stick with Avast! It is lean enough for me to prefer it over Symantec.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
I would definitely use Avast! over Symantec. You won't see me disagreeing with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125880" rel="nofollow">Fred Thompson wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Sure would be nice if they’d also test the various freeware and shareware Linux firewalls like Astaro.</p></blockquote>
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<p>They do actually test some of the Linux antivirus applications in a separate test, and I might do a write up about that.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125881" rel="nofollow">Fred Thompson wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>What difference do the PAST results make? They’re nothing but a slight indicator of PAST performance which isn’t the same as current performance. They’re not even a good predictor of the future. Author X finds his scanner Y failed on virus type Z so he improves the scanner. That was then, this is now.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I have to disagree with that. I think that you can look at the past results as a good indicator of how the apps will perform in the future. Look at how many times ESET has passed compared to the others. That means they have had to fix very little as a result of the tests.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125894" rel="nofollow">Anonymous wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>My only hope is that ESET won’t be “bought out” by some bloated giant like Symantec.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That would be absolutely terrible, but I don&#8217;t think ESET will sell out like that.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125920" rel="nofollow">Francis Sim wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I think 2 false positives is good enough for me to stick with Avast! It is lean enough for me to prefer it over Symantec.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I would definitely use Avast! over Symantec. You won&#8217;t see me disagreeing with that.</p>
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		<title>By: not Sol</title>
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		<dc:creator>not Sol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125879" rel="nofollow"&gt;Amak wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There is no “best” antivirus. Each one has its weakness….though some of those are inexcusable (Norton’s ridiculous scan times comes to mind).&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]

I didn't say it was the best...I agree with you on this one.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125920" rel="nofollow"&gt;Francis Sim wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I think 2 false positives is good enough for me to stick with Avast! It is lean enough for me to prefer it over Symantec.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
If you want to roll out anti-virus on a corporate level to servers and workstations, the ESET is still very good...and Avast! [in my opinion] not as robust...but on the personal use front - Avast! is free for home use and fails on 2 false positives.  So what do you think I run at home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125879" rel="nofollow">Amak wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>There is no “best” antivirus. Each one has its weakness….though some of those are inexcusable (Norton’s ridiculous scan times comes to mind).</p></blockquote>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t say it was the best&#8230;I agree with you on this one.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125920" rel="nofollow">Francis Sim wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I think 2 false positives is good enough for me to stick with Avast! It is lean enough for me to prefer it over Symantec.</p></blockquote>
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<p>If you want to roll out anti-virus on a corporate level to servers and workstations, the ESET is still very good&#8230;and Avast! [in my opinion] not as robust&#8230;but on the personal use front - Avast! is free for home use and fails on 2 false positives.  So what do you think I run at home?</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Sim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Sim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think 2 false positives is good enough for me to stick with Avast! It is lean enough for me to prefer it over Symantec.</description>
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		<title>By: Wandering electrons</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2007/12/06/best-antivirus-programs-fail-vb100/#comment-125906</link>
		<dc:creator>Wandering electrons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 11:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I was pleased to see that my firewall of choice, bitdefender, had passed, it should always be kept in mind that the results of antivirus tests will vary with the methodology used. (That said, I do agree that catching known viruses is an absolute bottom-line entry point for competency.)
And then, there's an old adage in science: "Absence of proof is not proof of absence". When your antivirus tells you "no viruses found" it means exactly that: the program didn't *find* any viruses, but that does not necessarily mean that there *are no* viruses in your computer.
It's a shame that making multiple antivirus programs live happily on a single computer is difficult...
Anyhoo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I was pleased to see that my firewall of choice, bitdefender, had passed, it should always be kept in mind that the results of antivirus tests will vary with the methodology used. (That said, I do agree that catching known viruses is an absolute bottom-line entry point for competency.)<br />
And then, there&#8217;s an old adage in science: &#8220;Absence of proof is not proof of absence&#8221;. When your antivirus tells you &#8220;no viruses found&#8221; it means exactly that: the program didn&#8217;t *find* any viruses, but that does not necessarily mean that there *are no* viruses in your computer.<br />
It&#8217;s a shame that making multiple antivirus programs live happily on a single computer is difficult&#8230;<br />
Anyhoo</p>
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		<title>By: Tinhed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tinhed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 09:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about clamwin? better still clamav + ubuntu. cheers</description>
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		<title>By: yeshu</title>
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		<dc:creator>yeshu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i use nod32 and i have had absolutely no problems from the past 2 years....3 cheers for eset nod32..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i use nod32 and i have had absolutely no problems from the past 2 years&#8230;.3 cheers for eset nod32..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My only hope is that ESET won't be "bought out" by some bloated giant like Symantec.</description>
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		<title>By: Fred Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What difference do the PAST results make? They're nothing but a slight indicator of PAST performance which isn't the same as current performance. They're not even a good predictor of the future. Author X finds his scanner Y failed on virus type Z so he improves the scanner. That was then, this is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What difference do the PAST results make? They&#8217;re nothing but a slight indicator of PAST performance which isn&#8217;t the same as current performance. They&#8217;re not even a good predictor of the future. Author X finds his scanner Y failed on virus type Z so he improves the scanner. That was then, this is now.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grisoft AVG free version passed and it's a truely free version, not adware crap. Realtime and email scanning are the same as the full commercial version. You can't set your own automated scanning other than once a day. BFD. Scan once and turn that off.

Sure would be nice if they'd also test the various freeware and shareware Linux firewalls like Astaro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grisoft AVG free version passed and it&#8217;s a truely free version, not adware crap. Realtime and email scanning are the same as the full commercial version. You can&#8217;t set your own automated scanning other than once a day. BFD. Scan once and turn that off.</p>
<p>Sure would be nice if they&#8217;d also test the various freeware and shareware Linux firewalls like Astaro.</p>
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		<title>By: Amak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no "best" antivirus. Each one has its weakness....though some of those are inexcusable (Norton's ridiculous scan times comes to mind).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no &#8220;best&#8221; antivirus. Each one has its weakness&#8230;.though some of those are inexcusable (Norton&#8217;s ridiculous scan times comes to mind).</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125835" rel="nofollow"&gt;Dave wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve tried out the trial for Eset’s Smart Security suite. It seems to be working pretty well but are there detection rate reviews out for it yet?&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
It uses NOD32 for the antivirus, so it would be the same results as NOD32. I haven't seen any tests on the firewall yet though.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125837" rel="nofollow"&gt;dtanderson wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Avast! only failed because of 2 false positives?  I don’t find that bad.  I would rather have false positives than misses….&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
True, but it means it still needs a little work.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125839" rel="nofollow"&gt;Max wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Pardon my ignorance, but what’s so special about this VB100 thing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
If an antivirus program can't detect viruses that are already known then that is a critical flaw.



[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125840" rel="nofollow"&gt;marek wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I now run ESS on 3 computers at home, and it’s pretty slick. It’s good to know it fares so well in AV tests.

Before that I had used Avira for a few years, and only dropped it because I wanted a suite that included a firewall, and Avira’s suite was giving me bluescreens (the firewall, not the AV component). The redesigned UI in ESS also won me over. &lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
I haven't used Avira before, but ESS was a great buy for myself. I've never noticed a delay with the realtime scanner though, like you have. Everything seems to be purring like a kitten.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125842" rel="nofollow"&gt;Marcus wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There seems to be a lot of conflicting information about the best antivirus software.  A new test has reported how well different antivirus products deal with detecting new, unknown malware before it reaches the vendors’ labs.. but it tells a differnt story from VB100

&lt;a href="http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/12/proactive-test.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.sophos.com/pressoff.....-test.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
We've written about that kind of test before, but it still only tells one side of the story. Antivirus applications need to catch viruses that have been released as well as ones that haven't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125835" rel="nofollow">Dave wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I’ve tried out the trial for Eset’s Smart Security suite. It seems to be working pretty well but are there detection rate reviews out for it yet?</p></blockquote>
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<p>It uses NOD32 for the antivirus, so it would be the same results as NOD32. I haven&#8217;t seen any tests on the firewall yet though.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125837" rel="nofollow">dtanderson wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Avast! only failed because of 2 false positives?  I don’t find that bad.  I would rather have false positives than misses….</p></blockquote>
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<p>True, but it means it still needs a little work.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125839" rel="nofollow">Max wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Pardon my ignorance, but what’s so special about this VB100 thing?</p></blockquote>
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<p>If an antivirus program can&#8217;t detect viruses that are already known then that is a critical flaw.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125840" rel="nofollow">marek wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I now run ESS on 3 computers at home, and it’s pretty slick. It’s good to know it fares so well in AV tests.</p>
<p>Before that I had used Avira for a few years, and only dropped it because I wanted a suite that included a firewall, and Avira’s suite was giving me bluescreens (the firewall, not the AV component). The redesigned UI in ESS also won me over. </p></blockquote>
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<p>I haven&#8217;t used Avira before, but ESS was a great buy for myself. I&#8217;ve never noticed a delay with the realtime scanner though, like you have. Everything seems to be purring like a kitten.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125842" rel="nofollow">Marcus wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>There seems to be a lot of conflicting information about the best antivirus software.  A new test has reported how well different antivirus products deal with detecting new, unknown malware before it reaches the vendors’ labs.. but it tells a differnt story from VB100</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/12/proactive-test.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sophos.com/pressoff.....-test.html</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>We&#8217;ve written about that kind of test before, but it still only tells one side of the story. Antivirus applications need to catch viruses that have been released as well as ones that haven&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 00:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-125842" rel="nofollow"&gt;Marcus wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;There seems to be a lot of conflicting information about the best antivirus software.  A new test has reported how well different antivirus products deal with detecting new, unknown malware before it reaches the vendors’ labs.. but it tells a differnt story from VB100

&lt;a href="http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/12/proactive-test.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.sophos.com/pressoff.....-test.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]


The problem with that link is that it is hosted by the developer of the "winner."  While I think that Sophos is a pretty honest company, I still don't see how their study should be taken any more seriously than the studies found on ESET's site or any other major dev.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-125842" rel="nofollow">Marcus wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>There seems to be a lot of conflicting information about the best antivirus software.  A new test has reported how well different antivirus products deal with detecting new, unknown malware before it reaches the vendors’ labs.. but it tells a differnt story from VB100</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/12/proactive-test.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sophos.com/pressoff.....-test.html</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>The problem with that link is that it is hosted by the developer of the &#8220;winner.&#8221;  While I think that Sophos is a pretty honest company, I still don&#8217;t see how their study should be taken any more seriously than the studies found on ESET&#8217;s site or any other major dev.</p>
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		<title>By: nimicitor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm still going to stick with F-Secure Internet Security 2007 until the licence runs out in June even though it takes forever to finish a scan.
Ill try out ESET Internet Security after that, hopefully thats quicker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still going to stick with F-Secure Internet Security 2007 until the licence runs out in June even though it takes forever to finish a scan.<br />
Ill try out ESET Internet Security after that, hopefully thats quicker.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a lot of conflicting information about the best antivirus software.  A new test has reported how well different antivirus products deal with detecting new, unknown malware before it reaches the vendors' labs.. but it tells a differnt story from VB100

http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/12/proactive-test.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a lot of conflicting information about the best antivirus software.  A new test has reported how well different antivirus products deal with detecting new, unknown malware before it reaches the vendors&#8217; labs.. but it tells a differnt story from VB100</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2007/12/proactive-test.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sophos.com/pressoff.....-test.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: marek</title>
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		<dc:creator>marek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn't entirely fair to Avira AntiVir. "4 false positives" is a pretty good result. True, Avira is well known for false positives, but it did not miss a single actual virus, which is the really critical measure.

I now run ESS on 3 computers at home, and it's pretty slick. It's good to know it fares so well in AV tests.

Before that I had used Avira for a few years, and only dropped it because I wanted a suite that included a firewall, and Avira's suite was giving me bluescreens (the firewall, not the AV component). The redesigned UI in ESS also won me over. 

For those who still have to decide which AV to use: one thing I've noticed after the switch is that Avira's real-time scanner is much, MUCH faster than ESS or NOD-32. I pretty much had to restrict the real-time scanner only to specified extensions, disable advanced heuristics and disable runtime packer scanning, otherwise I had to wait a couple of seconds for file access on regular-sized executables and documents - and I have a pretty fast, custom built system. ESS was taking something like 10 (ten) seconds to scan a 30 MB plain text (.txt) file! For some reason it scans executable files of the same size almost instantly, but it seems to have a problem with certain filetypes.

So I get a little miffed when NOD-32 is paraded as the fastest AV engine, also by ESET themselves, and would advise anyone to test for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t entirely fair to Avira AntiVir. &#8220;4 false positives&#8221; is a pretty good result. True, Avira is well known for false positives, but it did not miss a single actual virus, which is the really critical measure.</p>
<p>I now run ESS on 3 computers at home, and it&#8217;s pretty slick. It&#8217;s good to know it fares so well in AV tests.</p>
<p>Before that I had used Avira for a few years, and only dropped it because I wanted a suite that included a firewall, and Avira&#8217;s suite was giving me bluescreens (the firewall, not the AV component). The redesigned UI in ESS also won me over. </p>
<p>For those who still have to decide which AV to use: one thing I&#8217;ve noticed after the switch is that Avira&#8217;s real-time scanner is much, MUCH faster than ESS or NOD-32. I pretty much had to restrict the real-time scanner only to specified extensions, disable advanced heuristics and disable runtime packer scanning, otherwise I had to wait a couple of seconds for file access on regular-sized executables and documents - and I have a pretty fast, custom built system. ESS was taking something like 10 (ten) seconds to scan a 30 MB plain text (.txt) file! For some reason it scans executable files of the same size almost instantly, but it seems to have a problem with certain filetypes.</p>
<p>So I get a little miffed when NOD-32 is paraded as the fastest AV engine, also by ESET themselves, and would advise anyone to test for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my ignorance, but what's so special about this VB100 thing?</description>
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