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		<title>By: Leonid Mamchenkov</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/01/24/1-year-vista-vulnerability-analysis/#comment-130173</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonid Mamchenkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess I just worded that poorly. They didn’t include things that aren’t commonly found in both Windows and Mac OS X.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I see... Thanks for the clarification. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess I just worded that poorly. They didn’t include things that aren’t commonly found in both Windows and Mac OS X.</p></blockquote>
<p>I see&#8230; Thanks for the clarification. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-130105" rel="nofollow"&gt;Verdican wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I still hate those programs that prompt you to install different toolbars because inexperienced users will just click the default box; and end up with an enormous amount of toolbars.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
I hate those as well. That's what really gets a lot of people, especially since all of the big companies (Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc...) are doing it now.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-130119" rel="nofollow"&gt;Leonid Mamchenkov wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;And third-party applications commonly included with the Linux distributions, such as OpenOffice and Gimp, were ignored to keep things fair.
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Somehow, I find it difficult to fold this sentence into my brain.  Isn’t pretty much &lt;b&gt;everything&lt;/b&gt; in the Linux distribution a third-party software?&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
I guess I just worded that poorly. They didn't include things that aren't commonly found in both Windows and Mac OS X.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130105" rel="nofollow">Verdican wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I still hate those programs that prompt you to install different toolbars because inexperienced users will just click the default box; and end up with an enormous amount of toolbars.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I hate those as well. That&#8217;s what really gets a lot of people, especially since all of the big companies (Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc&#8230;) are doing it now.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130119" rel="nofollow">Leonid Mamchenkov wrote:</a><br />
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<blockquote>And third-party applications commonly included with the Linux distributions, such as OpenOffice and Gimp, were ignored to keep things fair.
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<p>Somehow, I find it difficult to fold this sentence into my brain.  Isn’t pretty much <b>everything</b> in the Linux distribution a third-party software?</p></blockquote>
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<p>I guess I just worded that poorly. They didn&#8217;t include things that aren&#8217;t commonly found in both Windows and Mac OS X.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonid Mamchenkov</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/01/24/1-year-vista-vulnerability-analysis/#comment-130119</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonid Mamchenkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And third-party applications commonly included with the Linux distributions, such as OpenOffice and Gimp, were ignored to keep things fair.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Somehow, I find it difficult to fold this sentence into my brain.  Isn't pretty much &lt;b&gt;everything&lt;/b&gt; in the Linux distribution a third-party software?

I mean, take Red Hat for example.  What software are they developing in-house?  Anaconda installation GUI.  Maybe bits and pieces of RPM, although it's an external project now, from what I know.  Shells? Compilers? Even the Linux kernel itself is not an in-house project, even though they are spending plenty of time on that...   Where does one draw a line between in-house application and a third-party one?  And then, is it fair to compare what's left to what is offered by other operating system vendors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And third-party applications commonly included with the Linux distributions, such as OpenOffice and Gimp, were ignored to keep things fair.</p></blockquote>
<p>Somehow, I find it difficult to fold this sentence into my brain.  Isn&#8217;t pretty much <b>everything</b> in the Linux distribution a third-party software?</p>
<p>I mean, take Red Hat for example.  What software are they developing in-house?  Anaconda installation GUI.  Maybe bits and pieces of RPM, although it&#8217;s an external project now, from what I know.  Shells? Compilers? Even the Linux kernel itself is not an in-house project, even though they are spending plenty of time on that&#8230;   Where does one draw a line between in-house application and a third-party one?  And then, is it fair to compare what&#8217;s left to what is offered by other operating system vendors?</p>
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		<title>By: Verdican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Verdican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-130081"&gt;Ryan wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The thing that amazes me is how people can actually be productive when they have 5 toolbars installed in Internet Explorer. They normally take up over half of the screen.  8O&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]

Well, most people who are really productive on the Internet don't use Internet Explorer, and they certainly don't install toolbars "just for the heck of it". The users I know who have a bunch of toolbars all think that it's normal to get them so they don't really do anything about it. It's when their computer starts acting up that they actually begin to wonder what they might have done wrong. I still hate those programs that prompt you to install different toolbars because inexperienced users will just click the default box; and end up with an enormous amount of toolbars. Poor chaps.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-130068"&gt;The How-To Geek wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;An operating system is only as secure as the amount of spyware the users willingly install…

Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they’ll have an excuse to talk to me. That’s really the only logical explanation for how they’d continually be infected. =P&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]

As I'm sure you know, the whole point of spyware is to trick users into installing malware onto their computers. That's the whole problem with malware. If a user decides to install something, even a good Anti-Virus program or a firewall program wouldn't be able to stop them. Buying a good Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware program is only half the battle. The other half is educating users about what they should or what they shouldn't click on. It's a shame that everyone I know is too stubborn to admit that they had ever clicked on a bad link. Oh well. It's their computer, not mine.

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I'm actually surprised about the results. Don't you think it's odd that an open source operating system is patched much more than commercial operating systems? Sure, there aren't as many hackers working to exploit Linux, but it's still quite an achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130081">Ryan wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>The thing that amazes me is how people can actually be productive when they have 5 toolbars installed in Internet Explorer. They normally take up over half of the screen.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt='8O' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>Well, most people who are really productive on the Internet don&#8217;t use Internet Explorer, and they certainly don&#8217;t install toolbars &#8220;just for the heck of it&#8221;. The users I know who have a bunch of toolbars all think that it&#8217;s normal to get them so they don&#8217;t really do anything about it. It&#8217;s when their computer starts acting up that they actually begin to wonder what they might have done wrong. I still hate those programs that prompt you to install different toolbars because inexperienced users will just click the default box; and end up with an enormous amount of toolbars. Poor chaps.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130068">The How-To Geek wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>An operating system is only as secure as the amount of spyware the users willingly install…</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they’ll have an excuse to talk to me. That’s really the only logical explanation for how they’d continually be infected. =P</p></blockquote>
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<p>As I&#8217;m sure you know, the whole point of spyware is to trick users into installing malware onto their computers. That&#8217;s the whole problem with malware. If a user decides to install something, even a good Anti-Virus program or a firewall program wouldn&#8217;t be able to stop them. Buying a good Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware program is only half the battle. The other half is educating users about what they should or what they shouldn&#8217;t click on. It&#8217;s a shame that everyone I know is too stubborn to admit that they had ever clicked on a bad link. Oh well. It&#8217;s their computer, not mine.</p>
<p>_______<br />
I&#8217;m actually surprised about the results. Don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s odd that an open source operating system is patched much more than commercial operating systems? Sure, there aren&#8217;t as many hackers working to exploit Linux, but it&#8217;s still quite an achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-130068" rel="nofollow"&gt;The How-To Geek wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they’ll have an excuse to talk to me. That’s really the only logical explanation for how they’d continually be infected. =P&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
The thing that amazes me is how people can actually be productive when they have 5 toolbars installed in Internet Explorer. They normally take up over half of the screen.  8O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-130068" rel="nofollow">The How-To Geek wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they’ll have an excuse to talk to me. That’s really the only logical explanation for how they’d continually be infected. =P</p></blockquote>
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<p>The thing that amazes me is how people can actually be productive when they have 5 toolbars installed in Internet Explorer. They normally take up over half of the screen.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt='8O' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: The How-To Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>The How-To Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An operating system is only as secure as the amount of spyware the users willingly install...

Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they'll have an excuse to talk to me. That's really the only logical explanation for how they'd continually be infected. =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An operating system is only as secure as the amount of spyware the users willingly install&#8230;</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder if my friends purposely install spyware so they&#8217;ll have an excuse to talk to me. That&#8217;s really the only logical explanation for how they&#8217;d continually be infected. =P</p>
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