Comments on: Internet Explorer 8 First Impressions

By: chr0899933

chr0899933 — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:57:40 +0000

@Chris
You must have either to Google Toolbar or Yahoo Toolbar installed. They both do horrible horrible things to the browser so its no wonder that a beta 1 would crash. Try running IE8 in No Addons Mode, then let us know if it still crashes.

I ran in No addons mode and worked perfectly! But I uninstalled the Yahoo Toolbar preinstalled on my PC and the normal mode still doesn’t work.
EDIT: I disabled all the addons in no-addons mode and the normal mode works now!

By: Ryan

Ryan — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:25:09 +0000

Nirmal wrote:

@Ryan,
Does the alignment issues mean that we have to fix our blogs or websites for IE8? Doing this will change the alignment in other browsers?
I too have few issues on my blog.

You can tweak the code on the site, but it is possible that it will have adverse affects in other browsers. I’m not going to take the time to do that quite yet because there could just be some bugs in IE8 right now, and I’m going to wait for further versions to be released. For the time being I’ve just added the line of code mentioned above so that the site renders as it would in IE7.

Inferno_str1ke wrote:

Let’s just hope they don’t drag their feet about opening up Activities to any service provider.

They’ve already posted the information necessary for people to create their own Activities:
http://www.microsoft.com/windo.....activities

By: Oropher

Oropher — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:04:28 +0000

@Nirmal, if IE8 is as standards compliant as they say, instead of doing “code to standards, hack for IE” we’ll have to “code to standards, hack for IE<8″. Meaning, the alignment issues are probably where IE8 Standards Mode is seeing code meant to fix IE7’s Standards Mode. So no, done properly, the required changes shouldn’t cause problems with other browsers.

By: Nirmal

Nirmal — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:27:08 +0000

@Ryan,
Does the alignment issues mean that we have to fix our blogs or websites for IE8? Doing this will change the alignment in other browsers?
I too have few issues on my blog.

By: Chandra

Chandra — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:00:26 +0000

Many sites do not work on IE8 - nytimes crashed repeatedly. None of the sites containing embedded video work, crashing repeatedly. Even its own site - officelive.com advices to use IE6 and above or firefox 2 and above —>
To use Microsoft Office Live, your computer must meet one of the following requirements:

Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 or later, running on Microsoft Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows Server 2003. You can download the latest version of Internet Explorer from the Windows Internet Explorer page.

Firefox 2.0, running on Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, or Mac OS X 10.2.x and later. You can download Firefox 2.0 from the Firefox Download page.

looks like the beta version hasn’t even gone through its own internal testing..

By: Mitchel Tyrell

Mitchel Tyrell — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:07:26 +0000

@Chris
You must have either to Google Toolbar or Yahoo Toolbar installed. They both do horrible horrible things to the browser so its no wonder that a beta 1 would crash. Try running IE8 in No Addons Mode, then let us know if it still crashes.

By: skh.pcola

skh.pcola — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:42:49 +0000

I have no idea why the IE8 upgrade took so long for me. I like thee new version better than the older ones, but will stick with Opera, as it has all of the functionality that I need and I’m used to it.

Chris, I’ve used it on and off since yesterday and have had no problems at all.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:39:21 +0000

well after upgraded to IE8 and restarted. I started IE8 and it immediately crashed. Why…?

By: Inferno_str1ke

Inferno_str1ke — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:30:14 +0000

Brilliant. I genuinely applaud Microsoft for this. Not because I’m going to switch away from Firefox (I like my extensions and open sourceness) but because so many people use the default brower (ie IE) out of the box and if that can’t render pages properly and is dog slow, we have a problem.

If people have a fast browser that renders correctly they’ll be a lot more keen to find out what’s on offer on the internet, outside of their usual boxes. This means more money from advertising on more websites, which means better developments and improved services for all of us. Let’s just hope they don’t drag their feet about opening up Activities to any service provider.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:45:11 +0000

Omar Upegui wrote:

I can see that almost all “Activities” are Microsoft-related, which means that Steve Ballmer wants you to stay within MS proprietary premises.

That only makes sense though. Of course Microsoft is going to try and promote their own services, but at the same time anyone can develop their own Activities to be used. I even linked to a page above that Microsoft has setup where they will host the Activities that have been created so far.

Radu Capan wrote:

What about memory usage? Did you look at how much RAM use IE7 vs IE8?

A little better than IE7, and still quite a bit better than the other browsers. After some casual browsing with about 15 tabs open it was only eating up about 80MB of memory. My Firefox climbs to over 100MB quite rapidly.

motang wrote:

I upgraded on my work computer and for some reason it doesn’t work well. IE7 was better, and in IE8 Live/Hotmail doesn’t work at all, the site just freezes on me. I guess I didn’t get the good working one.

If the website freezes then it is probably a site compatibility issue. You would want to switch to the IE7 rendering mode which I’ve found to fix all site rendering issues.

Corvida wrote:

Definitely not the best upgrade and the features aren’t great or even worth the upgrade unless you use Microsoft’s Live Products extensively.

The thing with the features they’ve added is that they aren’t that great until developers start to take advantage of them. When sites start making WebSlices and what not I think it will be a lot better.

By: Corvida

Corvida — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:19:11 +0000

Definitely not the best upgrade and the features aren’t great or even worth the upgrade unless you use Microsoft’s Live Products extensively.

By: motang

motang — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:34:20 +0000

I upgraded on my work computer and for some reason it doesn’t work well. IE7 was better, and in IE8 Live/Hotmail doesn’t work at all, the site just freezes on me.
I guess I didn’t get the good working one.

By: Radu Capan

Radu Capan — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:39:43 +0000

What about memory usage? Did you look at how much RAM use IE7 vs IE8?

By: Omar Upegui

Omar Upegui — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:33:58 +0000

@Ryan:

“When you highlight some text a little green arrow will appear above your selection. If you click on that arrow you’ll see a list of all your installed Activities that you can choose from. This is a quick way for you to translate text, map an address, define a word, and much more:”

I can see that almost all “Activities” are Microsoft-related, which means that Steve Ballmer wants you to stay within MS proprietary premises. Examples:

1. Blog with Windows Live Spaces
2. Define with Encarta
3. Map with Live Maps
4. Search With Google (only exception and a big one)
5. Send with Windows Live HotMail
6. Translate with Windows Live

I don’t know, but I have a gut feeling that Firefox 3 (finished product) will leapfrog Internet Explorer 8. Biased? Perhaps.
Regards,

Omar.-