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	<title>Comments on: Apple Pushes Safari &#34;Update&#34; on Windows</title>
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		<title>By: leland</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133740</link>
		<dc:creator>leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it's not Safari specifically causing the crash.  One thing iTunes/Safari bundle with the software is the Bonjour DNS service which some users have found to cause issues.  I would think this the more likely culprit in this case.  Safari is after all only a browser and as far as I can tell behaved enough not to cause issues itself.  Bonjour however has caused me headaches on some of the computers on the network I manage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not Safari specifically causing the crash.  One thing iTunes/Safari bundle with the software is the Bonjour DNS service which some users have found to cause issues.  I would think this the more likely culprit in this case.  Safari is after all only a browser and as far as I can tell behaved enough not to cause issues itself.  Bonjour however has caused me headaches on some of the computers on the network I manage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133691</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-133626" rel="nofollow"&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I was one of the users that update “installed safari”. It was 5am I was checking my email before I go to work, Itunes has an update. well I click ok on it without really reading it. well I get home from work and windows internet explorer just keeds crashing. I scan for virus/spyware I have 0 found, I restart my Pc and it still crashs. Well I notice I have new programs installed and its safari. I played with it then uninstalled it. now winddows internet explorer works fine. This is not good what they have done. having both will cause internet explorer to crash all the time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Huh, it doesn't cause my Internet Explorer 7 to crash. That's really bad though if it was causing your IE to crash though, but submitting a bug report for that would probably just get ignored.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133626" rel="nofollow">Anonymous wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I was one of the users that update “installed safari”. It was 5am I was checking my email before I go to work, Itunes has an update. well I click ok on it without really reading it. well I get home from work and windows internet explorer just keeds crashing. I scan for virus/spyware I have 0 found, I restart my Pc and it still crashs. Well I notice I have new programs installed and its safari. I played with it then uninstalled it. now winddows internet explorer works fine. This is not good what they have done. having both will cause internet explorer to crash all the time.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Huh, it doesn&#8217;t cause my Internet Explorer 7 to crash. That&#8217;s really bad though if it was causing your IE to crash though, but submitting a bug report for that would probably just get ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133626</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was one of the users that update "installed safari". It was 5am I was checking my email before I go to work, Itunes has an update. well I click ok on it without really reading it. well I get home from work and windows internet explorer just keeds crashing. I scan for virus/spyware I have 0 found, I restart my Pc and it still crashs. Well I notice I have new programs installed and its safari. I played with it then uninstalled it. now winddows internet explorer works fine. This is not good what they have done. having both will cause internet explorer to crash all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one of the users that update &#8220;installed safari&#8221;. It was 5am I was checking my email before I go to work, Itunes has an update. well I click ok on it without really reading it. well I get home from work and windows internet explorer just keeds crashing. I scan for virus/spyware I have 0 found, I restart my Pc and it still crashs. Well I notice I have new programs installed and its safari. I played with it then uninstalled it. now winddows internet explorer works fine. This is not good what they have done. having both will cause internet explorer to crash all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: The Inexcusable Check Mark – pwnt.be</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133515</link>
		<dc:creator>The Inexcusable Check Mark – pwnt.be</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I’d like to point out that I am very much aware that Apple had announced their plans. Steve didn’t go into detail, but it was to be expected, given their aggressive [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133514</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes they should've used WPF. But no one does .NET mainstream today.  :cry:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes they should&#8217;ve used WPF. But no one does .NET mainstream today.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133482</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-133394" rel="nofollow"&gt;natmaster wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This is a microcosm of all the questionable tactics Apple uses because they can’t get users to legitimately like their products.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Er, yeah. That's it... nobody likes their products. How fiendish of them to have forced all of those products on everyone over the years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133394" rel="nofollow">natmaster wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>This is a microcosm of all the questionable tactics Apple uses because they can’t get users to legitimately like their products.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Er, yeah. That&#8217;s it&#8230; nobody likes their products. How fiendish of them to have forced all of those products on everyone over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133462</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-133394" rel="nofollow"&gt;natmaster wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This is a microcosm of all the questionable tactics Apple uses because they can’t get users to legitimately like their products.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Well, they can get people to like some of their products, but I think Safari on Windows is a much harder game.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-133411" rel="nofollow"&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s not faster. Not even close. page loads are minimally faster than firefox, but start times and even accessing menus is sluggish.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Next Wednesday we're putting several of the mainstream browsers up against each other so we'll find out then.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-133414" rel="nofollow"&gt;Lashiec wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Nothing new really, I only have QuickTime installed, and every time I launch Apple Software Update (manually), I see there the option to “update” to iTunes (NO WAY!). Thankfully, you can ignore it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Huh, I never knew that. I've always installed iTunes with QuickTime so I've never seen that notification.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-133435" rel="nofollow"&gt;leland wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I try my best not to install iTunes because of how much I dislike it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
In the past I've tried to avoid it like the plague, but I bought an iPhone since I really liked the device and you have to install iTunes in order to get the darn thing activated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133394" rel="nofollow">natmaster wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>This is a microcosm of all the questionable tactics Apple uses because they can’t get users to legitimately like their products.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Well, they can get people to like some of their products, but I think Safari on Windows is a much harder game.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133411" rel="nofollow">Anonymous wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>It’s not faster. Not even close. page loads are minimally faster than firefox, but start times and even accessing menus is sluggish.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Next Wednesday we&#8217;re putting several of the mainstream browsers up against each other so we&#8217;ll find out then.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133414" rel="nofollow">Lashiec wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Nothing new really, I only have QuickTime installed, and every time I launch Apple Software Update (manually), I see there the option to “update” to iTunes (NO WAY!). Thankfully, you can ignore it.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Huh, I never knew that. I&#8217;ve always installed iTunes with QuickTime so I&#8217;ve never seen that notification.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133435" rel="nofollow">leland wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I try my best not to install iTunes because of how much I dislike it.</p></blockquote>
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<p>In the past I&#8217;ve tried to avoid it like the plague, but I bought an iPhone since I really liked the device and you have to install iTunes in order to get the darn thing activated.</p>
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		<title>By: leland</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133435</link>
		<dc:creator>leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try my best not to install iTunes because of how much I dislike it.  When I need to add media to my iPod I use Floola http://www.floola.com/  For Quicktime there is Quicktime Alternative of VLC or KMPlayer.  And of course Safari is not really necessary at all.  One thing I noticed about iTunes that really annoyed me a lot was that it was putting the Bonjour DNS service on your computer.  Just what you need another service running in the background to steal processor cycles and RAM.  I think that's what really turned me off to iTunes along with the helper task and all the other background apps it comes with.  

Besides I know their computers come with background tasks that are supposed to be self healing mechanisms but can in reality work much like cancer cells do in the human body.  The computer thinks everything is fine and starts replicating the bad hard drive blocks and before you know it the computer blows up.  I have seen this happen to many people.  It's what has helped third party tools makers sell so much software for fixing Macs.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on Apple software and hardware for the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try my best not to install iTunes because of how much I dislike it.  When I need to add media to my iPod I use Floola <a href="http://www.floola.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.floola.com/</a>  For Quicktime there is Quicktime Alternative of VLC or KMPlayer.  And of course Safari is not really necessary at all.  One thing I noticed about iTunes that really annoyed me a lot was that it was putting the Bonjour DNS service on your computer.  Just what you need another service running in the background to steal processor cycles and RAM.  I think that&#8217;s what really turned me off to iTunes along with the helper task and all the other background apps it comes with.  </p>
<p>Besides I know their computers come with background tasks that are supposed to be self healing mechanisms but can in reality work much like cancer cells do in the human body.  The computer thinks everything is fine and starts replicating the bad hard drive blocks and before you know it the computer blows up.  I have seen this happen to many people.  It&#8217;s what has helped third party tools makers sell so much software for fixing Macs.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s my thoughts on Apple software and hardware for the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Lashiec</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133414</link>
		<dc:creator>Lashiec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing new really, I only have QuickTime installed, and every time I launch Apple Software Update (manually), I see there the option to "update" to iTunes (NO WAY!). Thankfully, you can ignore it.

Besides this, Apple relationship with Windows is way better than in the past. QuickTime 6 and earlier used to push qttask in Windows' autostart, while it stole ALL of your multimedia extensions (both in Windows and in browsers' plugins), without asking, and then you have to re-register the extensions with the programs you use. In contrast, QuickTime 7 is a well-behaved citizen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new really, I only have QuickTime installed, and every time I launch Apple Software Update (manually), I see there the option to &#8220;update&#8221; to iTunes (NO WAY!). Thankfully, you can ignore it.</p>
<p>Besides this, Apple relationship with Windows is way better than in the past. QuickTime 6 and earlier used to push qttask in Windows&#8217; autostart, while it stole ALL of your multimedia extensions (both in Windows and in browsers&#8217; plugins), without asking, and then you have to re-register the extensions with the programs you use. In contrast, QuickTime 7 is a well-behaved citizen.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Apple pushing Safari 31 on Windows users &#124; Apple Blog</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133412</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Apple pushing Safari 31 on Windows users &#124; Apple Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cybernet reminds us that this wasn&#8217;t quite unexpected &#8212; Steve did say that Apple had made inroads on Windows with iTunes, and that they planned to use those inroads to send Safari around. The only problem is that, while yes, the button and the text do say &#8220;Install,&#8221; the program is usually used for &#8220;updating&#8221; software, and so getting new software with the deal wasn&#8217;t something a lot of users expected. And users who don&#8217;t do anything but the default (I can guarantee you that, since I bought my mother an iPod for Christmas, my parents now have Safari 3.1 installed on their PC, despite the fact that they still aren&#8217;t quite sure how that Firefox I installed for them works), are basically getting software they didn&#8217;t plan to have. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Cybernet reminds us that this wasn&#8217;t quite unexpected &#8212; Steve did say that Apple had made inroads on Windows with iTunes, and that they planned to use those inroads to send Safari around. The only problem is that, while yes, the button and the text do say &#8220;Install,&#8221; the program is usually used for &#8220;updating&#8221; software, and so getting new software with the deal wasn&#8217;t something a lot of users expected. And users who don&#8217;t do anything but the default (I can guarantee you that, since I bought my mother an iPod for Christmas, my parents now have Safari 3.1 installed on their PC, despite the fact that they still aren&#8217;t quite sure how that Firefox I installed for them works), are basically getting software they didn&#8217;t plan to have. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133411</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I gave in, and installed safari for windows out of morbid curiosity.  I've find safari somewhat feature lacking but very speedy on the fancy new iMacs at school, and while I know apple software tends to be clunky on windows, what the heck.

It's not faster. Not even close. page loads are minimally faster than firefox, but start times and even accessing menus is sluggish.

But the real kicker, is that the whole thing is basically one giant OSX advert. It doesn't mesh at all with the windows UI, they give it the OSX feel, with the blue shiny scroll bars, and even the out-then-down animated way dialog boxes pop up. Needless to say all this fancy rendering outside of the default leads to very slow performance, at least on this old laptop of mine. iTunes doesn't do a fantastic job of blending in with windows, but it does enough to not be an eyesore (although your opinion on that may vary). 

Needless to say, I've uninstalled already. 

Sad how ruthless apple is becoming(already has been). I'd hate them as much as microsoft, but this iPhone here, damnit, it's just so sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I gave in, and installed safari for windows out of morbid curiosity.  I&#8217;ve find safari somewhat feature lacking but very speedy on the fancy new iMacs at school, and while I know apple software tends to be clunky on windows, what the heck.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not faster. Not even close. page loads are minimally faster than firefox, but start times and even accessing menus is sluggish.</p>
<p>But the real kicker, is that the whole thing is basically one giant OSX advert. It doesn&#8217;t mesh at all with the windows UI, they give it the OSX feel, with the blue shiny scroll bars, and even the out-then-down animated way dialog boxes pop up. Needless to say all this fancy rendering outside of the default leads to very slow performance, at least on this old laptop of mine. iTunes doesn&#8217;t do a fantastic job of blending in with windows, but it does enough to not be an eyesore (although your opinion on that may vary). </p>
<p>Needless to say, I&#8217;ve uninstalled already. </p>
<p>Sad how ruthless apple is becoming(already has been). I&#8217;d hate them as much as microsoft, but this iPhone here, damnit, it&#8217;s just so sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133400</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny - you can only get Apples updater if you install itunes - if you are lucky enough to find the standalone version of Quicktime you'll have to go and update manually. That was enough to bug me, but throwing a browser at people makes them worse than Realplayer installing Yahoo toolbar.   I recommend Quick Time alternative if you need to play .mov or other files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny - you can only get Apples updater if you install itunes - if you are lucky enough to find the standalone version of Quicktime you&#8217;ll have to go and update manually. That was enough to bug me, but throwing a browser at people makes them worse than Realplayer installing Yahoo toolbar.   I recommend Quick Time alternative if you need to play .mov or other files.</p>
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		<title>By: natmaster</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133394</link>
		<dc:creator>natmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a microcosm of all the questionable tactics Apple uses because they can't get users to legitimately like their products.</description>
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		<title>By: Google</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133389</link>
		<dc:creator>Google</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Sigh* *Turns back*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Sigh* *Turns back*</p>
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		<title>By: Mris</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133384</link>
		<dc:creator>Mris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use iTunes and recently after they had released a minor update which I didn't install, I started to see the Apple Software Update window suddenly appear even when iTunes wasn't open.

I think maybe the Quicktime plugin for Firefox caused this since I have disabled all the related helper programs and services iTunes want to install every time. This is very annoying and I ended up uninstalling Apple Software Update although I'll probably need it the next time they patch Quicktime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use iTunes and recently after they had released a minor update which I didn&#8217;t install, I started to see the Apple Software Update window suddenly appear even when iTunes wasn&#8217;t open.</p>
<p>I think maybe the Quicktime plugin for Firefox caused this since I have disabled all the related helper programs and services iTunes want to install every time. This is very annoying and I ended up uninstalling Apple Software Update although I&#8217;ll probably need it the next time they patch Quicktime.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133383</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully users will see that Apple and Microsoft are not all that different in that they both try to push their products onto users. I look at this the same way as if Microsoft was trying to push MSN Messenger for Mac onto any Mac user who has Office installed. It just doesn't make sense, and if Microsoft was the one doing it there would be a lot of heads turning.

I'm really glad that many of you feel the same way that I do that this is an inappropriate way for Apple to try and spread Safari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully users will see that Apple and Microsoft are not all that different in that they both try to push their products onto users. I look at this the same way as if Microsoft was trying to push MSN Messenger for Mac onto any Mac user who has Office installed. It just doesn&#8217;t make sense, and if Microsoft was the one doing it there would be a lot of heads turning.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really glad that many of you feel the same way that I do that this is an inappropriate way for Apple to try and spread Safari.</p>
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		<title>By: Apple Duped iTunes Users to Install Safari!</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133381</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple Duped iTunes Users to Install Safari!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CyberNet points out, at last year&#8217;s World Wide Developers Conference, Steve Jobs had a presentation on how they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CyberNet points out, at last year&#8217;s World Wide Developers Conference, Steve Jobs had a presentation on how they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cow&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple pushes Safari as iTunes Update</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133378</link>
		<dc:creator>Cow&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apple pushes Safari as iTunes Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CyberNet News reports on Apple pushing Safari 3.1 on Windows as an update to everybody who has iTunes installed. Steve Jobs said: How are we going to distribute this? We don’t really talk to these customers, do we? There are over 500,000 downloads of Firefox a day. What are we going to do? Well, it turns out, there are over 1 million downloads of iTunes a day. As a matter of fact, there have been over a half a billion downloads of iTunes to Windows Machines. Over half a billion. And so we know how to reach these customers and we are going to do exactly that. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CyberNet News reports on Apple pushing Safari 3.1 on Windows as an update to everybody who has iTunes installed. Steve Jobs said: How are we going to distribute this? We don’t really talk to these customers, do we? There are over 500,000 downloads of Firefox a day. What are we going to do? Well, it turns out, there are over 1 million downloads of iTunes a day. As a matter of fact, there have been over a half a billion downloads of iTunes to Windows Machines. Over half a billion. And so we know how to reach these customers and we are going to do exactly that. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133376</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got rid of Apple Software Update months ago also Quicktime and iTunes.
I never used or wanted iTunes but it came bundled with Quicktime so when Steve Jobs boasts there have been over a half a billion downloads of iTunes to Windows Machines you need to ask just how many of them were wanted and not a case of the user not unticking a box during an update.
My machine seems to work fine without any Apple software so that is how it will remain. The only website that uses Quicktime seems to be Apple now anyway so there is no point in it being installed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got rid of Apple Software Update months ago also Quicktime and iTunes.<br />
I never used or wanted iTunes but it came bundled with Quicktime so when Steve Jobs boasts there have been over a half a billion downloads of iTunes to Windows Machines you need to ask just how many of them were wanted and not a case of the user not unticking a box during an update.<br />
My machine seems to work fine without any Apple software so that is how it will remain. The only website that uses Quicktime seems to be Apple now anyway so there is no point in it being installed.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/03/20/apple-pushes-safari-update-on-windows/#comment-133375</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hands up everyone who thinks apple software update just became adware. From what I've heard safari on windows has major security concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hands up everyone who thinks apple software update just became adware. From what I&#8217;ve heard safari on windows has major security concerns.</p>
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