Is also insightful

For those who have 3.0b5 try this

about:robots

That was actually really funny. I especially like what happens when you click the “try again” button.

about:robots

netster007x wrote:

Now here they are in order of site compatibility (least to greatest)…Opera, Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer
That’s a strong negative correlation (-1) between standards compliance and site compatibility!

Yeah, but that’s just because IE has the biggest marketshare and Firefox has tried to make its engine more compatible with how IE displays thing in order to gain marketshare as well. You cannot compare it like that (unfortunately)

That is exactly right. There is really no correlation (positive or negative) to standards compliance and ability to render a site correctly. Opera takes a lot of steps to ensure that major sites render correctly (such as Gmail), and it’s merely because developers don’t want to take the time to test and debug any problems. With IE8 becoming more standards compliant we might see a more uniform Internet in the future.

Now here they are in order of site compatibility (least to greatest)…Opera, Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer

That’s a strong negative correlation (-1) between standards compliance and site compatibility!

Yeah, but that’s just because IE has the biggest marketshare and Firefox has tried to make its engine more compatible with how IE displays thing in order to gain marketshare as well. You cannot compare it like that (unfortunately)

I do see the point of Acid2 because the browsers that support that generally support standards better (= easier to develop cross-browser compatible websites), but I’m not sure if this is the case with Acid3 yet. If Mike Shaver is right, the impact of Acid3 on the web experience will be minimal, which was not the case with Acid2.

“But the Acid tests shouldn’t be fair to browsers, they should be fair to the web”

is a cop-out. As a web developer, I can tell you that websites today are built to work in browsers. Having a site that is cross-browser compatible is the highest priority. Browser compatibility will trump design every time.

If web browsers all conformed to the same standard then web developers could finally actually focus on the bigger picture, the web itself, instead of focusing on browsers.

Get your browsers to render the same based on the same standard, and developers will create a web that lives up to its potential.

Here’s a list of the common browsers (latest release) in terms of standards compliance (least to greatest)…
Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Opera

Now here they are in order of site compatibility (least to greatest)…
Opera, Safari, Firefox, Internet Explorer

That’s a strong negative correlation (-1) between standards compliance and site compatibility!

I don’t even see a point of the Acid3 test, or any of the Acid tests for that matter. If Opera gets 100%, does that mean it will render all websites properly? No. Also, some Microsoft websites are meant to be viewed in IE only. Some standardization that is.

That’s a good point, but that’s not the fault of the browsers. It’s actually the fault of the designers not adhering to the standards that have been put in place.