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	<title>Comments on: Compiz Fusion Adds Cylinder Effect</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/04/10/compiz-fusion-adds-cylinder-effect/#comment-137039</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-136948" rel="nofollow"&gt;Oropher wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Patrick Niklaus has done a &lt;a href="http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/%7Emarex/2008/05/01/profiles-and-other-random-thoughts/" rel="nofollow"&gt;post about the effects and settings being considered for Simple-CCSM&lt;/a&gt;. Looks like a sensible selection of effects, especially on the lower-end.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
I really like how that is laid out, and hopefully we'll see those profiles being distributed with future versions of Linux distributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-136948" rel="nofollow">Oropher wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Patrick Niklaus has done a <a href="http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/%7Emarex/2008/05/01/profiles-and-other-random-thoughts/" rel="nofollow">post about the effects and settings being considered for Simple-CCSM</a>. Looks like a sensible selection of effects, especially on the lower-end.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I really like how that is laid out, and hopefully we&#8217;ll see those profiles being distributed with future versions of Linux distributions.</p>
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		<title>By: Oropher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oropher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick Niklaus has done a &lt;a href="http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~marex/2008/05/01/profiles-and-other-random-thoughts/" rel="nofollow"&gt;post about the effects and settings being considered for Simple-CCSM&lt;/a&gt;. Looks like a sensible selection of effects, especially on the lower-end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Niklaus has done a <a href="http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~marex/2008/05/01/profiles-and-other-random-thoughts/" rel="nofollow">post about the effects and settings being considered for Simple-CCSM</a>. Looks like a sensible selection of effects, especially on the lower-end.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-135598" rel="nofollow"&gt;Oropher wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It looks like &lt;a href="http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/%7Emarex/2008/04/13/cleaning-up-to-do-list/" title="Simple-CCSM" rel="nofollow"&gt;work on a simplified manager&lt;/a&gt; is already under way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
Thank goodness! Hopefully that is one of the next things to be added.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-135598" rel="nofollow">Oropher wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>It looks like <a href="http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/%7Emarex/2008/04/13/cleaning-up-to-do-list/" title="Simple-CCSM" rel="nofollow">work on a simplified manager</a> is already under way.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Thank goodness! Hopefully that is one of the next things to be added.</p>
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		<title>By: Oropher</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/04/10/compiz-fusion-adds-cylinder-effect/#comment-135598</link>
		<dc:creator>Oropher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like &lt;a href="http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~marex/2008/04/13/cleaning-up-to-do-list/" title="Simple-CCSM" rel="nofollow"&gt;work on a simplified manager&lt;/a&gt; is already under way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like <a href="http://dev.compiz-fusion.org/~marex/2008/04/13/cleaning-up-to-do-list/" title="Simple-CCSM" rel="nofollow">work on a simplified manager</a> is already under way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/04/10/compiz-fusion-adds-cylinder-effect/#comment-135482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-135435" rel="nofollow"&gt;Oropher wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the problem is with the manager. For example, at the moment Ubuntu offers only basic visual effects controls (none, basic &#38; ‘eyecandy’), unless you want to use the full CCSM panel. 

What we need is something in-between: a manager that offers a smaller range of useful plugins with sensible defaults, and most of their options hidden behind ‘advance’ buttons. That would satisfy the needs of intermediate users, while also giving people an easy ‘way in’ to learning the full manager.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
That would be a perfect solution, and hopefully a middle ground will be developed for users that want the eye candy but not all of the confusion.

[div id=commentquote]&lt;a href="#comment-135448" rel="nofollow"&gt;Michael Dobrofsky wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;the Compiz effects are probably the best-looking effects on any of the OSes. But all this spinning cube and cylinder crap is just laughable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;[/div]
I would agree that some of the Compiz effects are the best out of the other operating systems as well. But I've only found a few of them that make me more productive. Hopefully they'll start adding more effects that will focus on productivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-135435" rel="nofollow">Oropher wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I think the problem is with the manager. For example, at the moment Ubuntu offers only basic visual effects controls (none, basic &amp; ‘eyecandy’), unless you want to use the full CCSM panel. </p>
<p>What we need is something in-between: a manager that offers a smaller range of useful plugins with sensible defaults, and most of their options hidden behind ‘advance’ buttons. That would satisfy the needs of intermediate users, while also giving people an easy ‘way in’ to learning the full manager.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That would be a perfect solution, and hopefully a middle ground will be developed for users that want the eye candy but not all of the confusion.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-135448" rel="nofollow">Michael Dobrofsky wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>the Compiz effects are probably the best-looking effects on any of the OSes. But all this spinning cube and cylinder crap is just laughable.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I would agree that some of the Compiz effects are the best out of the other operating systems as well. But I&#8217;ve only found a few of them that make me more productive. Hopefully they&#8217;ll start adding more effects that will focus on productivity.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then most bundled Linux apps are full-featured which some may call bloated. Konqueror for instance is so so bloated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then most bundled Linux apps are full-featured which some may call bloated. Konqueror for instance is so so bloated.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dobrofsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dobrofsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's getting to become a joke. A total wankfest. Having a set of default effects on an OS is a great thing, in my opinion, and the Compiz effects are probably the best-looking effects on any of the OSes. But all this spinning cube and cylinder crap is just laughable. I mean, c'mon: who really thinks the spinning cube thing is useful in the daily grind of getting work done? It makes Compiz look like Price Fisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s getting to become a joke. A total wankfest. Having a set of default effects on an OS is a great thing, in my opinion, and the Compiz effects are probably the best-looking effects on any of the OSes. But all this spinning cube and cylinder crap is just laughable. I mean, c&#8217;mon: who really thinks the spinning cube thing is useful in the daily grind of getting work done? It makes Compiz look like Price Fisher.</p>
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		<title>By: raindog</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/2008/04/10/compiz-fusion-adds-cylinder-effect/#comment-135441</link>
		<dc:creator>raindog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I have no problem with having numerous option in Compiz Fusion, but I do think the control panel needs to be redesigned allowing for a basic default setup and an advanced group of options separately, similar to what Oropher previously stated.

raindog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I have no problem with having numerous option in Compiz Fusion, but I do think the control panel needs to be redesigned allowing for a basic default setup and an advanced group of options separately, similar to what Oropher previously stated.</p>
<p>raindog</p>
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		<title>By: Oropher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oropher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have problem with lots of plugins and lots of options. It's important to keep pushing the boundaries of visual effects, then merging them into the main release as they become stable.

I think the problem is with the manager. For example, at the moment Ubuntu offers only basic visual effects controls (none, basic &#38; 'eyecandy'), unless you want to use the full CCSM panel. 

What we need is something in-between: a manager that offers a smaller range of useful plugins with sensible defaults, and most of their options hidden behind 'advance' buttons. That would satisfy the needs of intermediate users, while also giving people an easy 'way in' to learning the full manager.

Something else I'd like to see is separately packaged plugins. So you could browse the Compiz Fusion site, download a plugin you liked the look of, and the open up your Intermediate Manager panel and click 'Import Plugin'. That way people could expand on the basic range of plugins with things they liked, without being overwhelmed by choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have problem with lots of plugins and lots of options. It&#8217;s important to keep pushing the boundaries of visual effects, then merging them into the main release as they become stable.</p>
<p>I think the problem is with the manager. For example, at the moment Ubuntu offers only basic visual effects controls (none, basic &amp; &#8216;eyecandy&#8217;), unless you want to use the full CCSM panel. </p>
<p>What we need is something in-between: a manager that offers a smaller range of useful plugins with sensible defaults, and most of their options hidden behind &#8216;advance&#8217; buttons. That would satisfy the needs of intermediate users, while also giving people an easy &#8216;way in&#8217; to learning the full manager.</p>
<p>Something else I&#8217;d like to see is separately packaged plugins. So you could browse the Compiz Fusion site, download a plugin you liked the look of, and the open up your Intermediate Manager panel and click &#8216;Import Plugin&#8217;. That way people could expand on the basic range of plugins with things they liked, without being overwhelmed by choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's about where my thoughts are with the project as well. The Control Panel has really become hard to understand, and I think that some of the options they offer are better left to those who want to mess with the terminal/command line. There are just too many things in the Control Panel, and many of the names associated with the options aren't very descriptive as to what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s about where my thoughts are with the project as well. The Control Panel has really become hard to understand, and I think that some of the options they offer are better left to those who want to mess with the terminal/command line. There are just too many things in the Control Panel, and many of the names associated with the options aren&#8217;t very descriptive as to what they do.</p>
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		<title>By: bloodsugarwilksm</title>
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		<dc:creator>bloodsugarwilksm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Compiz-Fusion is getting out of hand.  It does have too many features and it is becoming unwieldy.  The biggest problem I have with it is it's lack of default features (the Beryl default features were great - no fuss).  And the other really big problem I have with Compiz is the control panel... it's just stupid.  It's difficult to navigate and understand what you're turning on, what you're turning off, and what the parameters really mean.  I think they need to scrap the Compiz Control Panel and start all over again.   :x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Compiz-Fusion is getting out of hand.  It does have too many features and it is becoming unwieldy.  The biggest problem I have with it is it&#8217;s lack of default features (the Beryl default features were great - no fuss).  And the other really big problem I have with Compiz is the control panel&#8230; it&#8217;s just stupid.  It&#8217;s difficult to navigate and understand what you&#8217;re turning on, what you&#8217;re turning off, and what the parameters really mean.  I think they need to scrap the Compiz Control Panel and start all over again.   <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':x' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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