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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God Bless you if you can find it!  They seem to go out of their way to keep you from contacting them.

My displeasure with Apple grows.  Tried to make a Genius bar apt today.  Response was &quot;none available at this store&quot;!.  . . . . . . EVER?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God Bless you if you can find it!  They seem to go out of their way to keep you from contacting them.</p>
<p>My displeasure with Apple grows.  Tried to make a Genius bar apt today.  Response was &#8220;none available at this store&#8221;!.  . . . . . . EVER?</p>
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		<title>By: crossmr</title>
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		<dc:creator>crossmr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they seem to have changed the form, I can&#039;t find that option anymore, but I&#039;ve filed it under &quot;other app store problem&quot; because if you file it under &quot;application doesn&#039;t work as advertised&quot; they just tell you they can&#039;t provide tech support and that you should contact the developer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they seem to have changed the form, I can&#8217;t find that option anymore, but I&#8217;ve filed it under &#8220;other app store problem&#8221; because if you file it under &#8220;application doesn&#8217;t work as advertised&#8221; they just tell you they can&#8217;t provide tech support and that you should contact the developer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/apple-app-store-refund/comment-page-1/#comment-149189</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 11:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, this worked for me recently. I purchased GPS software which was mislabeled (two apps to be specific) totaling about 55$ and I got a refund no problem. I have to say I was impressed with apple greatly. I tok the refund and purchased a gps app that worked correctly for me and am very happy with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, this worked for me recently. I purchased GPS software which was mislabeled (two apps to be specific) totaling about 55$ and I got a refund no problem. I have to say I was impressed with apple greatly. I tok the refund and purchased a gps app that worked correctly for me and am very happy with it.</p>
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		<title>By: NetMage</title>
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		<dc:creator>NetMage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, &quot;manufacturer&quot; is a bad term to use in the case of software.

Better to talk about developers and distributors. Just like with the App Store, software purchased at Retail (especially games) is often developed by one company and distributed by another, that handles fulfillment issues.

You don&#039;t talk to the developer of Unreal Tournament, Epic Games, for a refund, you talk to the distributor, Atari.

For the App Store, Apple is the distributor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, &#8220;manufacturer&#8221; is a bad term to use in the case of software.</p>
<p>Better to talk about developers and distributors. Just like with the App Store, software purchased at Retail (especially games) is often developed by one company and distributed by another, that handles fulfillment issues.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t talk to the developer of Unreal Tournament, Epic Games, for a refund, you talk to the distributor, Atari.</p>
<p>For the App Store, Apple is the distributor.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/apple-app-store-refund/comment-page-1/#comment-148279</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this really the only way to get a refund? I am a developer and when I publish an app, I decide how long the customer has to get a refund. Shouldn&#039;t Apple have better way than contacting someone by email? What if a developer puts a length of 1 day and Apple doesn&#039;t get around to answering their email until the second day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this really the only way to get a refund? I am a developer and when I publish an app, I decide how long the customer has to get a refund. Shouldn&#8217;t Apple have better way than contacting someone by email? What if a developer puts a length of 1 day and Apple doesn&#8217;t get around to answering their email until the second day?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information, I was able to get a refund for RedLaser, one worthless app, Apple had told me to contact the seller, they ignored me.  I was able to get my refund using your suggestion.

Thanks again,
Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information, I was able to get a refund for RedLaser, one worthless app, Apple had told me to contact the seller, they ignored me.  I was able to get my refund using your suggestion.</p>
<p>Thanks again,<br />
Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/apple-app-store-refund/comment-page-1/#comment-144365</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-144364&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;If you buy a camera from Best Buy, and you decide to return it, you don’t send it back to Cannon. You bring it back to Best Buy. Cannon has no idea who you are. All they know is they built a camera with XYZ serial number, and were paid by the retailer or distributor for said camera.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That&#039;s probably the best example I&#039;ve heard yet Mike, and that does make a lot of sense. If, however, you bought a software program at Best Buy and tried to return it they wouldn&#039;t let you if it has been open. In that case you&#039;d have to go through the manufacturer of the software to get the refund.

Returning open/used software hasn&#039;t really been perfected by anyone, but often times it falls back to the developer who normally guarantees satisfaction of their product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-144364" rel="nofollow">Mike wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>If you buy a camera from Best Buy, and you decide to return it, you don’t send it back to Cannon. You bring it back to Best Buy. Cannon has no idea who you are. All they know is they built a camera with XYZ serial number, and were paid by the retailer or distributor for said camera.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That&#8217;s probably the best example I&#8217;ve heard yet Mike, and that does make a lot of sense. If, however, you bought a software program at Best Buy and tried to return it they wouldn&#8217;t let you if it has been open. In that case you&#8217;d have to go through the manufacturer of the software to get the refund.</p>
<p>Returning open/used software hasn&#8217;t really been perfected by anyone, but often times it falls back to the developer who normally guarantees satisfaction of their product.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the developer should be the one to authorize the refund.&quot;

That&#039;s not true. The developer has nothing to do with the charge to your credit card. Nor did they distribute the product through their own means. Apple should be the ONLY entity with ANY access to your credit card information.

If you buy a camera from Best Buy, and you decide to return it, you don&#039;t send it back to Cannon. You bring it back to Best Buy. Cannon has no idea who you are. All they know is they built a camera with XYZ serial number, and were paid by the retailer or distributor for said camera.

The developer doesn&#039;t know you from Adam. I&#039;m sure Apple knows who has bought what, but I&#039;m pretty sure they don&#039;t send your info to the developer. When was the last E-mail (or spam) you received from a developer, only because you bought their software on the App Store? So far, not a single one for me. Don&#039;t you think you would be getting more stupid &quot;newsletters&quot; and &quot;site/software/company updates&quot; with ads if they did release that information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the developer should be the one to authorize the refund.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not true. The developer has nothing to do with the charge to your credit card. Nor did they distribute the product through their own means. Apple should be the ONLY entity with ANY access to your credit card information.</p>
<p>If you buy a camera from Best Buy, and you decide to return it, you don&#8217;t send it back to Cannon. You bring it back to Best Buy. Cannon has no idea who you are. All they know is they built a camera with XYZ serial number, and were paid by the retailer or distributor for said camera.</p>
<p>The developer doesn&#8217;t know you from Adam. I&#8217;m sure Apple knows who has bought what, but I&#8217;m pretty sure they don&#8217;t send your info to the developer. When was the last E-mail (or spam) you received from a developer, only because you bought their software on the App Store? So far, not a single one for me. Don&#8217;t you think you would be getting more stupid &#8220;newsletters&#8221; and &#8220;site/software/company updates&#8221; with ads if they did release that information?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-144359&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;brussell wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;You say ideally the developer should be providing the refund. Apple actually takes the money back from the developer when they provide the refund. So, really they are.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
By that I meant the developer should be the one to authorize the refund. I realize that the money still comes out of the developer&#039;s pocket, but I think contacting Apple for the refund should be a last resort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-144359" rel="nofollow">brussell wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>You say ideally the developer should be providing the refund. Apple actually takes the money back from the developer when they provide the refund. So, really they are.</p></blockquote>
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<p>By that I meant the developer should be the one to authorize the refund. I realize that the money still comes out of the developer&#8217;s pocket, but I think contacting Apple for the refund should be a last resort.</p>
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		<title>By: brussell</title>
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		<dc:creator>brussell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say ideally the developer should be providing the refund. Apple actually takes the money back from the developer when they provide the refund. So, really they are. Apple lets you refund one music or such purchase (it&#039;s in the contract, if I remember correctly). I&#039;m not sure about apps. People have provided different luck with apps.

Also, the kill switch isn&#039;t on a per user basis. It&#039;s to keep all of a certain app from running if it turns out an app is malicious. They can&#039;t use that to keep an app from running that they&#039;ve refunded to one user.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say ideally the developer should be providing the refund. Apple actually takes the money back from the developer when they provide the refund. So, really they are. Apple lets you refund one music or such purchase (it&#8217;s in the contract, if I remember correctly). I&#8217;m not sure about apps. People have provided different luck with apps.</p>
<p>Also, the kill switch isn&#8217;t on a per user basis. It&#8217;s to keep all of a certain app from running if it turns out an app is malicious. They can&#8217;t use that to keep an app from running that they&#8217;ve refunded to one user.</p>
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