Comments on: CyberNet’s First Optional Sidebar Add-On: Unread Comments http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/ Technology News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:45:09 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: SLA http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86993 SLA Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:06:05 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86993 <p>Losing browser market share stimulates IE development. :twisted: Maybe one day IE will become standard compliant browser too...... I'm praying to Gods for this.</p> Losing browser market share stimulates IE development. :twisted: Maybe one day IE will become standard compliant browser too…… I’m praying to Gods for this.

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86937 Ryan Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:44:55 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86937 It would be awesome if we only had to develop for Firefox and Opera, but as long as Windows is the dominant operating system I think their browser will be too. :( It would be awesome if we only had to develop for Firefox and Opera, but as long as Windows is the dominant operating system I think their browser will be too. :(

]]> By: SLA http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86917 SLA Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:08:29 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86917 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-86906">Ryan wrote:</a><blockquote>If only Web design decisions were as simple as that...pick a browser and code only for that browser. ;)</blockquote></div> Many web-designers do that. (Or did in the past.) Remember all those "IE ONLY" websites? But that is definitely wrong, and I don't recommend coding something for a single browser. BTW, here is a nice comment from CNET News, which I have bookmarked 2 years ago: <a href="http://news.com.com/5208-1032-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=2447&messageID=13097&start=-1" rel="nofollow">How to fix "IE Only" sites</a> :D :D :D (it is short comment, please read) In other hand, it would be MUCH EASIER for web-developers, if they could DROP only one single "wrong" browser (Internet Explorer, of course), and create code for standard compliant browsers only (all other major browsers here). :D Ryan wrote:
If only Web design decisions were as simple as that…pick a browser and code only for that browser. ;)

Many web-designers do that. (Or did in the past.) Remember all those “IE ONLY” websites? But that is definitely wrong, and I don’t recommend coding something for a single browser.

BTW, here is a nice comment from CNET News, which I have bookmarked 2 years ago:

[news.com.com] :D :D :D (it is short comment, please read)

In other hand, it would be MUCH EASIER for web-developers, if they could DROP only one single “wrong” browser (Internet Explorer, of course), and create code for standard compliant browsers only (all other major browsers here). :D

]]> By: natmaster http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86913 natmaster Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:14:21 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86913 Adding this feature for Firefox does not reduce other browsers at all. They still have the same functionality that exists now. I don't see what's wrong with that... Adding this feature for Firefox does not reduce other browsers at all. They still have the same functionality that exists now. I don’t see what’s wrong with that…

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86906 Ryan Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:49:15 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86906 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-86904">natmaster wrote:</a><blockquote>Obviously drag&drop support is an optional enhancement - so you needn't worry about it working on all browsers. Just write it for Firefox!</blockquote></div> If only Web design decisions were as simple as that...pick a browser and code only for that browser. ;) natmaster wrote:
Obviously drag&drop support is an optional enhancement – so you needn’t worry about it working on all browsers. Just write it for Firefox!

If only Web design decisions were as simple as that…pick a browser and code only for that browser. ;)

]]> By: natmaster http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86904 natmaster Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:29:54 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86904 Obviously drag&drop support is an optional enhancement - so you needn't worry about it working on all browsers. Just write it for Firefox! Obviously drag&drop support is an optional enhancement – so you needn’t worry about it working on all browsers. Just write it for Firefox!

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86896 Ryan Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:49:29 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86896 Yeah, I wouldn't do any of the AJAX stuff simply because the available drag&drop methods in JavaScript don't mesh well across browsers. I haven't played with the JavaScript needed to do the move up/down/left/right command, but I can't imagine it would be that hard. That's definitely my next project though. If you have seen any scripts that might be helpful in setting it up please let me know. Yeah, I wouldn’t do any of the AJAX stuff simply because the available drag&drop methods in JavaScript don’t mesh well across browsers. I haven’t played with the JavaScript needed to do the move up/down/left/right command, but I can’t imagine it would be that hard. That’s definitely my next project though. If you have seen any scripts that might be helpful in setting it up please let me know.

]]> By: SLA http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86877 SLA Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:33:56 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86877 Thank you, very nice feature :) Now how about adding one more feature: ability to rearrange sidebar items (moving them to left or right column, and moving them up and down in the column). Now when I have turned off some sidebar items, my left column looks much longer than right one. If there would be rearrangement feature, I could balance it, also put more important items on the top, so it could be perfect. :) <strong>Edit:</strong> Oh, sorry, I just observed that other people asked for this feature too. :) <blockquote>That will definitely be coming but I just have to experiment with how I want to do it. I know that there is some JavaScript available to let users drag and drop things but I’m not sure if I want to do it that way or not. Either way, it would be something that is done from the administration screen rather than from the website directly. </blockquote> Of course it should work only via <em>Administration</em> / <em>Customize Sidebars</em> screen. Don't do anything too complex (like AJAX drag&drop), just make it similar to Firefox "Manage Search Engines" window. With simple buttons [Move Up], [Move Down], [Move Left], [Move Right]. Thank you, very nice feature :) Now how about adding one more feature: ability to rearrange sidebar items (moving them to left or right column, and moving them up and down in the column).

Now when I have turned off some sidebar items, my left column looks much longer than right one. If there would be rearrangement feature, I could balance it, also put more important items on the top, so it could be perfect. :)

Edit: Oh, sorry, I just observed that other people asked for this feature too. :)

That will definitely be coming but I just have to experiment with how I want to do it. I know that there is some JavaScript available to let users drag and drop things but I’m not sure if I want to do it that way or not. Either way, it would be something that is done from the administration screen rather than from the website directly.

Of course it should work only via Administration / Customize Sidebars screen. Don’t do anything too complex (like AJAX drag&drop), just make it similar to Firefox “Manage Search Engines” window. With simple buttons [Move Up], [Move Down], [Move Left], [Move Right].

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86491 Ryan Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:48:15 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86491 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-86271">CoryC wrote:</a><blockquote>And second, as you had mention in a previous post, the ability to reposition the sideboard add-ons similar to Google's Personalized Home Page.</blockquote></div> That will definitely be coming but I just have to experiment with how I want to do it. I know that there is some JavaScript available to let users drag and drop things but I'm not sure if I want to do it that way or not. Either way, it would be something that is done from the administration screen rather than from the website directly. <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-86472">natmaster wrote:</a><blockquote>I like the whole idea of a customizable website. Even with something as simple as a blog, it makes sense to give users more control... now if there were only some way to standardize this control so a user can set his prefs for every website from their browser.</blockquote></div> Sounds like something I could see Mozilla doing: creating locally customizable websites. Of course I guess that is kinda what the Greasemonkey extension does but in a slightly different way. I'm glad you like the new option! CoryC wrote:
And second, as you had mention in a previous post, the ability to reposition the sideboard add-ons similar to Google’s Personalized Home Page.

That will definitely be coming but I just have to experiment with how I want to do it. I know that there is some JavaScript available to let users drag and drop things but I’m not sure if I want to do it that way or not. Either way, it would be something that is done from the administration screen rather than from the website directly.

natmaster wrote:
I like the whole idea of a customizable website. Even with something as simple as a blog, it makes sense to give users more control… now if there were only some way to standardize this control so a user can set his prefs for every website from their browser.

Sounds like something I could see Mozilla doing: creating locally customizable websites. Of course I guess that is kinda what the Greasemonkey extension does but in a slightly different way. I’m glad you like the new option!

]]> By: natmaster http://cybernetnews.com/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-86472 natmaster Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:49:52 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/19/cybernets-first-optional-sidebar-add-on-unread-comments/#comment-86472 I like the whole idea of a customizable website. Even with something as simple as a blog, it makes sense to give users more control... now if there were only some way to standardize this control so a user can set his prefs for every website from their browser. I like the whole idea of a customizable website. Even with something as simple as a blog, it makes sense to give users more control… now if there were only some way to standardize this control so a user can set his prefs for every website from their browser.

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