Comments on: CyberNotes: Cookie Editors in Firefox & Opera

By: jacques

jacques — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:05:24 +0000

@Mele
Don’t get angry and keep cool guy!
And I’ve never heard about beeing messed up by cookies in Opera.
Mind they don’t eat your brain!
@Ryan
You just cannot say that this way. Google is doing a lot. Though there is still to do, I admit. Depending of platforms, versions and settings encountered.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:56:50 +0000

Ayush wrote:

You can open the Cookies manager in Opera from the Advanced submenu in Tools menu. 2 clicks instead of 5 (not counting the clicks to close those dialogs ) ;)

There are shortcuts all over the place in Opera! I didn't even notice that one.

jacques wrote:

Yep. Some sites have to test their stuff in Opera. Google did it well. And many others.

Actually Google is one of the biggest culprits of not providing Opera-compatible sites. Google Docs, Google Calendar, and more don't always work properly.

Mele wrote:

I say NO to ALL cookies evcept for a very few sites where I need them for login.

So many services use cookies to make things easier I can't imagine blocking all of the cookies. To each their own though.

By: Mele

Mele — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:37:32 +0000

I don’t use Opera because of its poor cooking handling and I think it is absurd to want to edit cookies. I want a browser, like Firefox, SeaMonkey or IE, that allows me to accept no third party cookies, asks me about all first party cookies and never accepts session cookies. IE and Fx can do this. I have all of ten permanent cookies on my computer and never have any session cookies. I never shut down my computers and shut down Fx rarely so I would not want to accept session cookies as those are essentially permanent. Opera, I use very little because of how extremely difficult it is to handle cookies as I want in Opera so I shut it down frequently out of frustration.

I say NO to ALL cookies evcept for a very few sites where I need them for login. Opera is incapable of learning when I say no to a cookie. It asks me again the next time I start Opera. Plus there is no box in Opera where I can check the box and then Opera would apply my cookie choice to all cookies at a specific site. I have to click “no” on 50-60 cookies at some sites, whereas, in Fx and SeaMonkey, I simply check the box to tell the browser to apply my initial decision on the first cookie offered at a site to all cookies at that site. I never see another cookie box at that site. Opera is unusable because of popping up so many cookies for me to click no to on a single site and then it not capable of remembering what I told it the next time I go to that site. Opera developers have no undestanding of cookies and have ruined what would be a great browser because they think, like Apple does, that everyone wants tons and tons of cookies.

Fx and IE learn and never ask again. Safari for Windows is by far the fastest browser, but it has an even worse cookie handling policy than does Opera which I didn’t think was possible until I tried it. So, I hardly use it because I cannot easily say NO to almost all cookies. Thus, I use Fx 1.5 as it allows me to specify no cookies from any sites other than originating and I use SeaMonkey which handles cookies like Fx 1.5. I had to alter Fx 2.0 to get it to handle cookies properly and it is a much poorer browser privacy wise than 1.5 so my default browser is Fx 1.5.

By: jacques

jacques — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:26:37 +0000

Yep. Some sites have to test their stuff in Opera.
Google did it well. And many others. Seems now that Opera counts a bit more. What’s right cause it was an early precursor. In fact, many of the features that are popular in other browsers today were invented and pioneered by Opera a long time ago. Opera invented the precursor to tabs (in 1994), Page Zoom (1994), was the first browser to block pop-up ads (2000), first to add a Search field in the browser toolbar (2000), Sessions (1996), deleting private data (2000), Mouse Gestures (2000), User JavaScript (2005), BitTorrent support (2005), Widgets (2006), Speed Dial (2007), and much more.

By: Ayush

Ayush — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:11:37 +0000

You can open the Cookies manager in Opera from the Advanced submenu in Tools menu. 2 clicks instead of 5 (not counting the clicks to close those dialogs )

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:50:46 +0000

netster007x wrote:

Wow, that’s very clever. That’s a simple way to maintain your logins that I never would have thought of. Maybe I’ll try it, since Opera has the functionality out of the box.

Just don’t spend too much time customizing all of the cookies, because I accidentally cleared all of my browser data and wiped all of my cookies out. That erased all of my work.

jacques wrote:

In my opinion, Opera now is even better than Firefox.
And no extensions to deal with.

Once Opera is able to get all of the Firefox-compatible sites working great I think it will be even more popular. I just wish more sites would test their stuff in Opera.

By: jacques

jacques — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:08:49 +0000

You can do a lot with Opera cookies editor: set them enabled for certain sites only, reversely disable them for certain sites only, or when not matching criterias, keep them safe when recognition related etc… Complete settings.
In my opinion, Opera now is even better than Firefox.
And no extensions to deal with.
Better browsing speed almost.
Last thing: now supports all sites. More, ajaxian ones: Opera works perfect where other browsers fail ( no exception ).

By: netster007x

netster007x — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:02:05 +0000

Wow, that’s very clever. That’s a simple way to maintain your logins that I never would have thought of. Maybe I’ll try it, since Opera has the functionality out of the box.