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When hooking my laptop up to an external monitor, the first thing that I like to do is extend my desktop over to that monitor. That way I am able to use my main monitor, but I am also able to utilize the screen on my laptop which practically doubles the amount of screen space I have to work with.

The only problem is that Windows has never let me choose which monitor is the primary one, and by default it always sets my laptop to be the primary display. I don’t like this because I have my main monitor in front of me, and my laptop sits more off to the side. Despite there being an option to choose which monitor is the primary one in the Display Settings, it has always been grayed out for me. After several hours of messing around, I have finally been able to figure out a solution that should work for everyone who has that option grayed out.

Vista’s External Monitor Option Grayed Out

On Windows Vista, the grayed out option reads “This is my main monitor” while on XP it says “Use this device as the primary monitor.” The two options mean the same thing, but the wording has been changed in Vista.

The reason that the option is grayed out is because some graphics cards don’t support changing the primary monitor. Well, they do, it just takes a little trickery to get it done. It won’t take you long to do, and doesn’t require you to download any additional tools or hack the registry. I was actually surprised at how easy it is after I figured out how I could get around it:

  1. Here’s what I’m starting out with: the monitor on my laptop is enabled and my external monitor disabled:
    Vista External Monitor
  2. The first thing you need to do is to enable only the monitor that you want to be the primary one. This is done by pressing the Function (Fn) key on your laptop along with the “F” key that switches the display. There should be either a picture of a monitor on the “F” key or it should say something like “CRT/LCD”. For me the key combination is Fn+F8:
    External Monitor Keyboard Shortcut
  3. So right now I have my external monitor enabled, and my laptop screen is off:
    Vista External Monitor
  4. Now I open up the Windows Display Settings, click on the box with the number 2 in it, and choose the “Extend the desktop onto this monitor.” In this case the secondary monitor is your laptop and should be the one disabled:
    Vista External Monitor
  5. Now enjoy the bliss of having the Start Menu in front of you instead of off to the side:
    Vista External Monitor

Note: You can also reverse this process to have the Start menu show up on the laptop’s monitor instead of on the external monitor.

The cool thing is that Windows will remember this setting so that every time after setting this up, it will properly designate the primary monitor. As soon as you unplug the external monitor, Windows will then move the Start Menu back to the Laptop just like you would expect it to.

Hopefully this will help someone out there because I spent hours searching the Internet trying to figure it out before finally sitting down and trying to come up with a solution myself.

  1. Brilliant – my laptop disabled ‘This is my main monitor’ a few weeks ago, I found your article and it worked again.

    I docked my laptop this morning and the option was disabled again. I’ve now bookmarked your article!

    Thanks!

  2. oh thank goodness i found this! saw so many threads with so much useless information – thankyou thankyou thankyou!!

  3. Thank you!
    I had mine set up the same way, but while booting this morning, I had the external connected to a server on my workbench via a KVM switch. This confused Windows and reversed my “primary” monitor back to my laptop display and I couldn’t for the life of me remember how to switch it back. This did the trick.

  4. Hi, unusual question. Thought I would just check to see if you happen to know. We are using a Mac laptop but running Windows. Keyboard is different. Trying to figure out your workaround but not having any luck. Ideas?

  5. Ok, fixed it in a Mac forum here (in case anyone finds this post before the Mac one and would like the link): [discussions.apple.com]

  6. Thank you so much. This helped me big time. I was so frustrated. :)

  7. I did just that and the task bar is on my external monitor like I wanted but now I can’t use the laptop monitor for some reason…what did I do wrong and how do I get to work with both monitors?

  8. I must say you’ve saved me from selling my perfectly working laptop because before this I had computer “pros” (a company that fixes computers where i’m from) they told me it was junk. I think they should be arrested for false advertisement b/c clearly they’re no pros, u should hold that title! thanks for saving my laptop!! :mrgreen:

  9. Thanks! Been irritating me for a while now, nice simple fix!

  10. You rock. You saved me a ton of time and pain. Thank You So much.

  11. Great. I spent whole afternoon to find the answer. Yours is the best. Thanks a lot!!!

  12. Wonderful trick !. Solved lot of my R & D time. Many Thanks

  13. Thank you very much!!!!

  14. hey thanks man!!!! much appreciated!!

  15. Thanks ryan…If you hit fn+f8 twice then both your labtop and external monitor will show the same thing.

  16. Thanks I was having the opposite problem for some reason. I wanted my laptop to be my primary and the monitor to be the secondary but it automatically put it the other way. This helped me though. I just did it in reverse of your indstruction. Thanks for the help. Now I can take over the world. HA hah HA :twisted: smile! :twisted:

  17. Just what I was looking for…. Thanks.

  18. Blissful indeed

  19. thx heaps for that. Laptop monitor had failed and needed to use the secondary monitor. Couldnt get the Fn F8 to work so just closed the lid on the laptop while booting and it went to the secondary as primary automatically. Great short term fix!!! thanks again.

  20. nice work helped me at work!

  21. Hi – Can’t thank you enough for these instructions. Was struggling and giving up and then trying again. I was going nuts!

    Super of you to take the time to share – clearly from the comments you have helped a ton of folks.

    Thanks again!

  22. You’re a saint. I have been cussing this computer all morning. You’re article helped me get the monitors straighten out in no time. Thanks

  23. What a top man you are, been searching for two hours trying to sort this out. ;-) Cheers buddy. Have a good weekend!

  24. Thanks a lot dude! ;) I owe you one! :)

  25. Thanks a lot, worked a treat :)

  26. thanks so much…. just spent most of the morning tearing my hear out – all sorted

  27. Thank you for this article and the pictures showing each step. My husband had both our laptops hooked up to larger monitors and something happened to his and would NOT let him fix it. We went through these steps which were different from what he did the first time, but which WORKED! If only we had saved ourselves an hour of frustration and googled the problem earlier. Thanks again.

  28. This was soooo helpful. Thanks! I’ve been trying to figure this out since yesterday. So greatful that you’re article was able to fix it for me…Thanks again!

  29. I found this informaiton very helpful.

    Widnows is supposed to be userfriedly. Obviously Miscrosoft has stopped testing properly what they produce.

    :)

  30. I have a dell laptop hooked up to a docking station. I want my non laptop monitor to stay on when the laptop is closed. right now i have to have my laptop open to view second monitor. As soon as I close it I loose the monitor! Please help!

  31. Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU!

  32. Thank you. Brilliant. This was exactly my problem and now it’s solved.

  33. Thank you! My work colleague has had this issue for ages. I’m now her hero.

  34. I too have bookmarked this page. You’d think Microsoft would take the time to document this, but noooooo….

  35. Thank you, thank you, thank you. This was a sanity saver.

  36. I am another that suffered with misplaced screens for a long time – thank you!!

  37. Thank you so much, you finally helped me to fix my problem.

  38. Super! Lost my nerws, but kept searching the other day, and the third day … and then there was this article!

    Unbelievable how good it feels to find a solution for a thing like this with help of someone capable write as clearly as here.

    Thanks.

  39. Thank you so much~ I usually depend on my computer genius husband for this type of thing but this time I didn’t and it feels AMAZING!!! Plus, it worked! Thank you for the help!

  40. thanks dude.. that was the most helpful 3 minute read ever!!!!!!!!

  41. OMG, thank you sooooooo much!! I like love you, dude!! *LOL* I seriously just wasted like 2 hours of my time trying to figure this out on my own, and then I go online, see your article, and my problem’s solved just like that! *thumbs up* :)

  42. Many thanx! A variation of what you provided has enabled me to load a software program onto my Acer AspireOne netbook using the display settings from my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop.

    Apparently the built-in resolution on the Acer was insufficient for the program to load. However, with your help I DID IT!

    Unbelievable what gobbledy-gook I received from Acer and the software people regarding this. Both pretty much said NOTHING could be done.

    We KNOW better, don’t we?

    Thanx again!

  43. Not only did this help a lot, but it is beautifully documented, with the screen-shots clearly labeled. Apparently this is difficult to do, as most sites I have seen can’t seem to manage it!

  44. Thanks so much! Just what I was looking for!

  45. Hi, I’ve got a Novatech laptop and the Fn fuction on my F8 key turns the volume up. My F3 key’s Fn function has a picture of a laptop and monitor seperatesd by a “/” but it didn’t seem to do anything when i tried it. Any ideas?

  46. Thank you so much for this!! I have been trying to do this for hours now and was getting more and more frustrated… Thanks to your article I have managed to get it set up as i wanted. It was really easy thanks to the screenshots and clear explanation. Thanks!

  47. Cheers brov! Good work, many thanks.

  48. Thanks for this! Never knew it was so easy to change it!
    Cheers from The Netherlands.

  49. I have been struggling with this issue for at least 2 years now and I can’t believe how simple it really is. Thank you very much for sharing this!

  50. Wow, after hours of searching, only to find the same solutions again and again, i finally found yours, which works amazingly well. Thanks a lot :)

  51. netster007xAll-StarOctober 20, 2009 at 3:54 pm

    Looks like Windows 7 helps clear the waters here. Now in the display settings window a link, “Connect to a projector” which gives options of “computer only”, “duplicate”, “extend”, and “projector only” (this one would change the primary monitor). It even provides a new uniform Window Key + P keyboard shortcut. Now it uses the word projector, but I’m pretty sure that’s just a euphemism for external display (plus it makes for a convenient keyboard shortcut).

    Windows 7 really has a lot of useful additions tucked in there. Heck, it’s driver interface is great. Plus, it’s auto installation finally works. After reformatting and doing a clean install, windows automatically installed my graphics driver and set optimal resolution, installed my network and wireless driver, installed DVD burner driver, installed wireless mouse driver… most things that have compatible drivers were installed automatically on their own.

  52. What happens if you dont have a Fn + F8 key or CTR/LCD on your external keyboard ? I dont have a laptop, and I am using my desktop computer with an LCD tv as the secondary monitor but everything automatically opens up in the LCD tv in full screen mode when I click on it in the primary monitor, I have to drag everything back into the primary monitor manually. If I had an FN + F8 key I could just do it with that?

  53. Thanks for explaining the strange configuration steps for windows xp. Wish support.microsoft.com copies this information!

  54. I was hoping this would help me but it didn’t. I have two external monitors in addition to my laptop monitor. I don’t want to use the laptop monitor (I think the video card will only handle two monitors anyway). But I want to change the primary monitor and it won’t let me. Even using your method.

    Even with the laptop closed. BLEH. I want to go home and use my MacBook. ;)

  55. Very well explained, thanks for your help.

  56. Thank you! My work laptop has a nasty habit of deciding that my external monitor is the primary one and it flips the monitors unpredictably. This time, after reading your article, I was able to restore the primary display to where _I_ wanted it to be – you have saved me lots of time and frustration!

  57. I LOVE you and want to have your cyber children. You just save me tons of time and looking like an idiot in front of clients!!

  58. You are my hero!