Comments on: Do you think Firefox is Becoming Bloated? http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/ Technology News Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:19:52 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96355 Ryan Mon, 21 May 2007 18:47:57 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96355 I've never actually used Adblock, but I don't know if I'm still fond of the whole Flashblock thing yet. I visit hundreds of unique sites everyday and many are to watch videos that are embedded. I guess for my browsing needs it doesn't work well, but for others it can do just the trick. Thanks for the recommedations Fox. ;) I’ve never actually used Adblock, but I don’t know if I’m still fond of the whole Flashblock thing yet. I visit hundreds of unique sites everyday and many are to watch videos that are embedded. I guess for my browsing needs it doesn’t work well, but for others it can do just the trick.

Thanks for the recommedations Fox. ;)

]]> By: Fox http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96264 Fox Sat, 19 May 2007 18:08:25 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96264 "Adblock Plus EasyList" should be "Adblock Plus with EasyList" “Adblock Plus EasyList” should be “Adblock Plus with EasyList”

]]> By: Fox http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96263 Fox Sat, 19 May 2007 18:05:39 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96263 Ryan: if i remember right, Flashblock has allow list, so you can whitelist Youtube and so on. But i don't use it, i use Adblock Plus EasyList filterlist, and that's better solution for Flash memory usage problems. http://adblockplus.org/en/ http://easylist.adblockplus.org/ because that way you don't see flash ads, those are really blocked and not just covered with Flashblock -button, (maybe i did use bad Flashblock -version, because sometimes flash did play little bit and then it was covered with play button.) And with Adblock Plus EasyList, you can still enjoy Flash video sites and so on. And if you wanna see ads on some sites and support them, you can turn off adblock on those sites: http://adblockplus.org/en/faq_basics#disable Ryan: if i remember right, Flashblock has allow list, so you can whitelist Youtube and so on.
But i don’t use it, i use Adblock Plus EasyList filterlist, and that’s better solution for Flash memory usage problems.
[adblockplus.org]
[easylist.adblockplus.org]
because that way you don’t see flash ads, those are really blocked and not just covered with Flashblock -button, (maybe i did use bad Flashblock -version, because sometimes flash did play little bit and then it was covered with play button.)
And with Adblock Plus EasyList, you can still enjoy Flash video sites and so on.
And if you wanna see ads on some sites and support them, you can turn off adblock on those sites:
[adblockplus.org]

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96261 Ryan Sat, 19 May 2007 17:46:35 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96261 @Morcas: I know that you're not criticizing me, I was just saying what my experiences are with Firefox. I can't believe that you opened that many tabs in Firefox and it only peaked at 82MB! After just 15 minutes of browsing mine is well over that. :) @Fox: Their recomendation for elimating the Flash memory problem is simply disabling it by using the Flashblock extension. I don't think that is much of a solution considering many of the sites I visit use Flash in some fashion. :| @Morcas: I know that you’re not criticizing me, I was just saying what my experiences are with Firefox. I can’t believe that you opened that many tabs in Firefox and it only peaked at 82MB! After just 15 minutes of browsing mine is well over that. :)

@Fox: Their recomendation for elimating the Flash memory problem is simply disabling it by using the Flashblock extension. I don’t think that is much of a solution considering many of the sites I visit use Flash in some fashion. :|

]]> By: Fox http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96254 Fox Sat, 19 May 2007 16:47:36 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96254 Ryan:<blockquote>@Fox: I have seen that “fix” before that you mentioned, but that doesn’t seem to fix things for me. It does make sense that it would be the cause of the problem since I see larger memory usage on systems with more RAM, but I’ve never seen this actually work by manually adjusting the values.</blockquote> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_-_Firefox That page also says a lot about plugins memory usage, like if you have Shockwave plugin, it can eat 100 MB or more. And read that Java memory usage -page too. Ryan:
@Fox: I have seen that “fix” before that you mentioned, but that doesn’t seem to fix things for me. It does make sense that it would be the cause of the problem since I see larger memory usage on systems with more RAM, but I’ve never seen this actually work by manually adjusting the values.

[kb.mozillazine.org]
That page also says a lot about plugins memory usage, like if you have Shockwave plugin, it can eat 100 MB or more.
And read that Java memory usage -page too.

]]> By: Morcas http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96246 Morcas Sat, 19 May 2007 06:52:42 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96246 Ryan, please don't think I am criticising you, believer me, that is not my intention. It's just that this story pops up every few months or so, and whilst I don't for one minute say fx is memory friendly, I also don't believe it's a 'hog' I'm not on broadband, so I can't surf 24/7, but I do leave fx open, as I use scrapbook for research, so I'm constantly in and out for most or the day. You know I really tried to get fx to use memory. One day I set TMP to allow 10 rows of tabs, I then filled those rows. fx memory peaked at 82Mb. In process explorer I watched for 10 minutes or so, and memory didn't move. I have to wonder if it's down to extensions and plugins. Every extension I have installed, has been tested individually, to check memory leaks, none do, and all play happily together. Also, as I said, I use VLC for any multimedia, having disabled any MS stuff. I also don't use flash, shockwave or java. I see no need. Ryan, please don’t think I am criticising you, believer me, that is not my intention. It’s just that this story pops up every few months or so, and whilst I don’t for one minute say fx is memory friendly, I also don’t believe it’s a ‘hog’

I’m not on broadband, so I can’t surf 24/7, but I do leave fx open, as I use scrapbook for research, so I’m constantly in and out for most or the day.

You know I really tried to get fx to use memory. One day I set TMP to allow 10 rows of tabs, I then filled those rows. fx memory peaked at 82Mb. In process explorer I watched for 10 minutes or so, and memory didn’t move.

I have to wonder if it’s down to extensions and plugins. Every extension I have installed, has been tested individually, to check memory leaks, none do, and all play happily together. Also, as I said, I use VLC for any multimedia, having disabled any MS stuff. I also don’t use flash, shockwave or java. I see no need.

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96218 Ryan Fri, 18 May 2007 21:28:35 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96218 @Morcas: I guess it just depends on the installation then. I have Firefox on 3 computers, 2 of which I use frequently and I have memory problems with both. :( Maybe it has something to do with the hundreds, if not thousands of tabs I open and close everyday without restarting the browser. @Morcas: I guess it just depends on the installation then. I have Firefox on 3 computers, 2 of which I use frequently and I have memory problems with both. :(

Maybe it has something to do with the hundreds, if not thousands of tabs I open and close everyday without restarting the browser.

]]> By: Morcas http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96208 Morcas Fri, 18 May 2007 19:54:09 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96208 You right Ryan, it is only 4 years, it was late 2003 when I picked up the first alpha. I still have the file in my archive :) I'm not the only one claiming not to have memory problems, which by the way I don't. Seriously, if fx is using 250Mb plus memory, you must have a problem somewhere, As I said fx has never used more than 80Mb of memory, even with multiple taps open, 27 extensions installed and left to run for several hours. By the way, I also installed fx on a friends machine, that has 1GB, the memory usage is similar to mine, so having more memory is not an excuse. You right Ryan, it is only 4 years, it was late 2003 when I picked up the first alpha. I still have the file in my archive :)

I’m not the only one claiming not to have memory problems, which by the way I don’t. Seriously, if fx is using 250Mb plus memory, you must have a problem somewhere, As I said fx has never used more than 80Mb of memory, even with multiple taps open, 27 extensions installed and left to run for several hours.

By the way, I also installed fx on a friends machine, that has 1GB, the memory usage is similar to mine, so having more memory is not an excuse.

]]> By: Mohan http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96201 Mohan Fri, 18 May 2007 17:07:53 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96201 Well I for one am a avid Firefox user. I use it work, on my Ubuntu Linux laptop and on my Win XP Pro desktop. I really don't see myself using any other browser. BTW: Nice image of a fatter fox :lol: Well I for one am a avid Firefox user. I use it work, on my Ubuntu Linux laptop and on my Win XP Pro desktop. I really don’t see myself using any other browser.

BTW: Nice image of a fatter fox :lol:

]]> By: Anonymous http://cybernetnews.com/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/comment-page-1/#comment-96196 Anonymous Fri, 18 May 2007 16:08:47 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/05/17/do-you-think-firefox-is-becoming-bloated/#comment-96196 I tried songbird but not on a PIII but I didn't think it was too fast (as I remember but I could be wrong). I think it is CPU usage for me because it acts similarly to Java/JS (it is not noticeable if you CPU is faster than 1GHz). I suspect firefox is snappier on linux but haven't verified it. I tried songbird but not on a PIII but I didn’t think it was too fast (as I remember but I could be wrong). I think it is CPU usage for me because it acts similarly to Java/JS (it is not noticeable if you CPU is faster than 1GHz). I suspect firefox is snappier on linux but haven’t verified it.

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