Comments on: Even with Short Supply, PlayStation 3 Consoles In-Stock http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/ Technology News Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:27:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-75975 Ryan Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:59:40 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-75975 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-75928">MetaMan wrote:</a><blockquote>Sony has no reason to be concerned about the PS3's poor sales. I'm sure they want to sell at least a few million, but think about what it's costing them! For every one million units sold they lose $250 million. <strong>If they sold four million units right now, they would lose one billion dollars</strong>. I'm sure they'll be happy with only selling two or three million right now, and even keeping the price up until the price of production falls. While all of this is going on, <em>the PS2 still sells more games than any other console</em>, and they are reaping those rewards. I think that the PS3 is seen internally as the option for PlayStation owners who are no longer satisfied by the PS2.</blockquote></div> I never thought about them not trying to shoot for selling a huge number of units, but what you said makes a lot of sense. Nice way to think outside the box! <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-75928">MetaMan wrote:</a><blockquote>For the record, I try to be unbiased, and I think people posting here should try to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPOV" rel="nofollow">leave their opinions at the door</a>, too. One of my favorite games is Halo, I prefer it slightly over GTA, and I would like to congratulate Microsoft on doing such a good job on the XBOX 360, both with the hardware and the content.</blockquote></div> I always try to leave my opinions out and try to provide the facts where it is necessary. Sony's PS3 undoubtedly has amazing graphical capabilities and the addition of the Blu-Ray makes it a steal for what it costs, but I think that is something many consumers (especially parents) won't really care about. MetaMan wrote:
Sony has no reason to be concerned about the PS3’s poor sales. I’m sure they want to sell at least a few million, but think about what it’s costing them! For every one million units sold they lose $250 million. If they sold four million units right now, they would lose one billion dollars. I’m sure they’ll be happy with only selling two or three million right now, and even keeping the price up until the price of production falls. While all of this is going on, the PS2 still sells more games than any other console, and they are reaping those rewards. I think that the PS3 is seen internally as the option for PlayStation owners who are no longer satisfied by the PS2.

I never thought about them not trying to shoot for selling a huge number of units, but what you said makes a lot of sense. Nice way to think outside the box!

MetaMan wrote:
For the record, I try to be unbiased, and I think people posting here should try to [en.wikipedia.org] too. One of my favorite games is Halo, I prefer it slightly over GTA, and I would like to congratulate Microsoft on doing such a good job on the XBOX 360, both with the hardware and the content.

I always try to leave my opinions out and try to provide the facts where it is necessary. Sony’s PS3 undoubtedly has amazing graphical capabilities and the addition of the Blu-Ray makes it a steal for what it costs, but I think that is something many consumers (especially parents) won’t really care about.

]]> By: MetaMan http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-75928 MetaMan Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:40:54 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-75928 Sony has no reason to be concerned about the PS3's poor sales. I'm sure they want to sell at least a few million, but think about what it's costing them! For every one million units sold they lose $250 million. <strong>If they sold four million units right now, they would lose one billion dollars</strong>. I'm sure they'll be happy with only selling two or three million right now, and even keeping the price up until the price of production falls. While all of this is going on, <em>the PS2 still sells more games than any other console</em>, and they are reaping those rewards. I think that the PS3 is seen internally as the option for PlayStation owners who are no longer satisfied by the PS2. A warning to Sony, though. <strong>If the price does not drop on the PS3 before GTA4 comes out, they may lose a lot of casual GTA fans</strong>. While GTA will probably be better on the PS3 (this is not the case for all games, but GTA is practically made for the PS3), many casual fans may not want to pay $100 more for a console just for slightly better gameplay. All must remember, <strong>GTA has always been more popular than Halo</strong>. GTA4 will be a defining point in the console race, with the <em>tens of millions</em> of GTA fans deciding what console to support this holiday season. For the record, I try to be unbiased, and I think people posting here should try to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPOV">leave their opinions at the door</a>, too. One of my favorite games is Halo, I prefer it slightly over GTA, and I would like to congratulate Microsoft on doing such a good job on the XBOX 360, both with the hardware and the content. Sony has no reason to be concerned about the PS3’s poor sales. I’m sure they want to sell at least a few million, but think about what it’s costing them! For every one million units sold they lose $250 million. If they sold four million units right now, they would lose one billion dollars. I’m sure they’ll be happy with only selling two or three million right now, and even keeping the price up until the price of production falls. While all of this is going on, the PS2 still sells more games than any other console, and they are reaping those rewards. I think that the PS3 is seen internally as the option for PlayStation owners who are no longer satisfied by the PS2.

A warning to Sony, though. If the price does not drop on the PS3 before GTA4 comes out, they may lose a lot of casual GTA fans. While GTA will probably be better on the PS3 (this is not the case for all games, but GTA is practically made for the PS3), many casual fans may not want to pay $100 more for a console just for slightly better gameplay. All must remember, GTA has always been more popular than Halo. GTA4 will be a defining point in the console race, with the tens of millions of GTA fans deciding what console to support this holiday season.

For the record, I try to be unbiased, and I think people posting here should try to [en.wikipedia.org] too. One of my favorite games is Halo, I prefer it slightly over GTA, and I would like to congratulate Microsoft on doing such a good job on the XBOX 360, both with the hardware and the content.

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-75682 Ryan Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:53:22 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-75682 They have to be worried because they have so much money invested in their systems. While it is a great deal for consumers (about $250 under what it costs Sony) it is still out of the price range that many families are willing to buy. Once Blu-Ray starts to become a little more prominent I think we might see some drastic price drops on the PS3 because that is what's keeping the price above what people expect to pay. For the time being I'm satisfied with my original modded Xbox since it can do nearly everything a PC can. They have to be worried because they have so much money invested in their systems. While it is a great deal for consumers (about $250 under what it costs Sony) it is still out of the price range that many families are willing to buy. Once Blu-Ray starts to become a little more prominent I think we might see some drastic price drops on the PS3 because that is what’s keeping the price above what people expect to pay. For the time being I’m satisfied with my original modded Xbox since it can do nearly everything a PC can.

]]> By: CoryC http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-75228 CoryC Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:28:31 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-75228 <blockquote>“Are we worried about strong sales of the Wii or Xbox 360? Not really,”</blockquote> It's funny because Dave Karraker, spokesman for Sony, was asked about poor sales of the PS3 not about strong sales of other consoles. You can see the PR machine at work. Frankly, I think they are worried.

“Are we worried about strong sales of the Wii or Xbox 360? Not really,”

It’s funny because Dave Karraker, spokesman for Sony, was asked about poor sales of the PS3 not about strong sales of other consoles. You can see the PR machine at work.

Frankly, I think they are worried.

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-74603 Ryan Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:25:34 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-74603 I don't have a Wii but out of all the systems I have seen people having the most fun on that one. I'm not really into the first person shooters or anything so the Wii would probably be my first choice. Not to mention how cool the controllers look! I don’t have a Wii but out of all the systems I have seen people having the most fun on that one. I’m not really into the first person shooters or anything so the Wii would probably be my first choice. Not to mention how cool the controllers look!

]]> By: CoryC http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-74115 CoryC Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:06:42 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-74115 Price, price, Price. Asking parent to fork over $600 bucks so their kids can play violent video games is a lot to ask. At $250 the Wii is affordable and Nintendo has a reputation for being more kid friendly. Price, price, Price. Asking parent to fork over $600 bucks so their kids can play violent video games is a lot to ask. At $250 the Wii is affordable and Nintendo has a reputation for being more kid friendly.

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-74025 Ryan Tue, 09 Jan 2007 13:14:31 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-74025 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-73371">bunnyhero wrote:</a><blockquote>you neglected to mention the very obvious factor of price in the demand equation. it's worth noting that the good old PS2 is selling more than any one of the next-gen consoles.</blockquote></div> I remember reading somewhere that PS2's are expected to sell more than PS3's this year as well. That's pretty insane, but price is definitely a factor as you mentioned. <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-73416">MetaMan wrote:</a><blockquote>I know <strong>a lot</strong> of people who are planning to buy a PS3, but are holding off because they are waiting until the price goes down, <em>and</em> they don't need one right away because all of the "good games" (GTA4, MGS4, FF13, etcetera) are coming out in about a year. They figure the price will go down before then, so what's the point? I see this as a sign that PS3 sales will pick up, but only after a price cut and a few blockbusters. Expect good sales in the 2007 holiday season.</blockquote></div> I think the price will drop as the Blu-Ray drive settles down a bit. The technology is still way too new, but I would say that a $100 to $200 price drop this year is reasonable in the system. <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-73778">waghdude wrote:</a><blockquote>I'm sure that Halo 3 will pause PS3 and Wii sales for at least a week.</blockquote></div> That's a good point...I wonder how many Xbox 360's Microsoft will sell the day Halo 3 launches. I've heard that Gears of War is pretty popular with the Halo fans so many of them might already own the system, needless to say that it would still affect PS3 and Wii sales because everyone will be focused on Xbox at that time. bunnyhero wrote:
you neglected to mention the very obvious factor of price in the demand equation. it’s worth noting that the good old PS2 is selling more than any one of the next-gen consoles.

I remember reading somewhere that PS2’s are expected to sell more than PS3’s this year as well. That’s pretty insane, but price is definitely a factor as you mentioned.

MetaMan wrote:
I know a lot of people who are planning to buy a PS3, but are holding off because they are waiting until the price goes down, and they don’t need one right away because all of the “good games” (GTA4, MGS4, FF13, etcetera) are coming out in about a year. They figure the price will go down before then, so what’s the point? I see this as a sign that PS3 sales will pick up, but only after a price cut and a few blockbusters. Expect good sales in the 2007 holiday season.

I think the price will drop as the Blu-Ray drive settles down a bit. The technology is still way too new, but I would say that a $100 to $200 price drop this year is reasonable in the system.

waghdude wrote:
I’m sure that Halo 3 will pause PS3 and Wii sales for at least a week.

That’s a good point…I wonder how many Xbox 360’s Microsoft will sell the day Halo 3 launches. I’ve heard that Gears of War is pretty popular with the Halo fans so many of them might already own the system, needless to say that it would still affect PS3 and Wii sales because everyone will be focused on Xbox at that time.

]]> By: waghdude http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-73778 waghdude Tue, 09 Jan 2007 09:46:10 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-73778 Remember that it wasn't until around February or March '06 that 360 supplies finally got to the point where you could casually pick one up just about anywhere you wanted to. Likewise, until the PS3 supply stabilizes in the coming month, we won't really know how good or bad the sales really are. But you have to admit that selling a million PS3 units in a month and a half is actually pretty good progress towards hitting that 2 million target (selling 1.8 Wiis in the similar period is even better). I'm sure that Halo 3 will pause PS3 and Wii sales for at least a week. Remember that it wasn’t until around February or March ‘06 that 360 supplies finally got to the point where you could casually pick one up just about anywhere you wanted to. Likewise, until the PS3 supply stabilizes in the coming month, we won’t really know how good or bad the sales really are. But you have to admit that selling a million PS3 units in a month and a half is actually pretty good progress towards hitting that 2 million target (selling 1.8 Wiis in the similar period is even better).

I’m sure that Halo 3 will pause PS3 and Wii sales for at least a week.

]]> By: MetaMan http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-73416 MetaMan Tue, 09 Jan 2007 03:52:23 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-73416 I know <strong>a lot</strong> of people who are planning to buy a PS3, but are holding off because they are waiting until the price goes down, <em>and</em> they don't need one right away because all of the "good games" (GTA4, MGS4, FF13, etcetera) are coming out in about a year. They figure the price will go down before then, so what's the point? I see this as a sign that PS3 sales will pick up, but only after a price cut and a few blockbusters. Expect good sales in the 2007 holiday season. I know a lot of people who are planning to buy a PS3, but are holding off because they are waiting until the price goes down, and they don’t need one right away because all of the “good games” (GTA4, MGS4, FF13, etcetera) are coming out in about a year. They figure the price will go down before then, so what’s the point? I see this as a sign that PS3 sales will pick up, but only after a price cut and a few blockbusters. Expect good sales in the 2007 holiday season.

]]> By: bunnyhero http://cybernetnews.com/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/comment-page-1/#comment-73371 bunnyhero Tue, 09 Jan 2007 03:15:57 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/08/even-with-short-supply-playstation-3-consoles-in-stock/#comment-73371 you neglected to mention the very obvious factor of price in the demand equation. it's worth noting that the good old PS2 is selling more than any one of the next-gen consoles. you neglected to mention the very obvious factor of price in the demand equation. it’s worth noting that the good old PS2 is selling more than any one of the next-gen consoles.

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