Comments on: Firefox 3 Features That Might Make the Cut http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/ Technology News Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:18:55 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-81075 Ryan Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:47:49 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-81075 Ha! I don't know what the odds of that are. Maybe they heard your complaint. :) Ha! I don’t know what the odds of that are. Maybe they heard your complaint. :)

]]> By: SLA http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-80930 SLA Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:07:46 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-80930 What a coincidence! I mentioned here, in this thread, that WinAmp doesn't support unicode ID3 tags... I just found this on www.winamp.com title page: <blockquote>FREE Winamp 5.32 available now! * NEW! Winamp Dashboard beta * NEW! Winamp Remote beta * <strong>NEW! Unicode filename and track support</strong> <--- !!!!! * IMPROVED! Sync capabilities for your device * SECURITY! Two vulnerabilities fixed!</blockquote> At last! What a coincidence! I mentioned here, in this thread, that WinAmp doesn’t support unicode ID3 tags… I just found this on [winamp.com] title page:

FREE Winamp 5.32 available now!

* NEW! Winamp Dashboard beta
* NEW! Winamp Remote beta
* NEW! Unicode filename and track support < --- !!!!!
* IMPROVED! Sync capabilities for your device
* SECURITY! Two vulnerabilities fixed!

At last!

]]> By: Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 - Page 2 - Onrpg MMORPG Forums http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-78901 Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 - Page 2 - Onrpg MMORPG Forums Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:47:36 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-78901 [...] Originally Posted by Computer World Fri, 01/12/2007 - 7:49am Just browsing IT Blogwatch, in which the browser wars rumble on, with early plans afoot for IE8 and Firefox 3/4. Not to mention Zefrank's eight favorite animal noises... The Mozilla Project's Percy Cabello popped in to say hi: In today’s Firefox 3 (code name Gran Paradiso) meeting, developers released a preliminary list of requirements for Firefox 3. The new target release date is sometime in the third quarter this year. Among the list of mandatory requirements ... we have:Improved interaction with Add-ons ...Support for remote bookmarks, bookmarks and history annotation.Files could be handled by web services. If I am reading this correctly, this could mean you would be able to click on an attached document and open it with something like Writely or Google Documents. And perhaps, as I asked Santa, the ability to redirect mailto: links to web email services.A much needed print support to prevent cut paragraphs and true WYSIWYG.The much requested MSI installer which will be a much welcomed improvement for IT administrators as it will ease deployment and updating of Firefox across a company.In the security front: support for Microsoft CardSpace and OpenID (check tomorrow’s article for more coverage on this). Smarter credentials handling.Airbag, the Google backed open source crash reporting tool will replace currently licensed TalkBack.Among the highly desirable requirements:A private web browsing mode ...Save web pages as PDF files, integrated with history ...Support pause/resume downloads across sessions.Make Firefox help accessible only while online ...Microformats support.Richard MacManus read that, and wrote this:While Firefox is still aiming for a broad mainstream audience, Mozilla recognizes that its strengths for normal users are its extensions and customization. It notes on the wiki that "Microsoft will continue to establish deeper ties from IE7/Vista to live.com & MSN" and even that other "web service providers" may introduce their own browsers (Yahoo? Amazon?). So Firefox is aiming to be the best general Web browser. ... The mandatory requirements listed ... show that Firefox wants to be an independent information broker rather than a simple HTML renderer in its next version. Microformats will be a key part of this too - and this is currently listed as a "highly desirable" feature ... good to see extensible identity management listed there. All of this encourages best-of-breed apps to flourish, which is an excellent direction for Mozilla to take with Firefox. It probably also plays into Google's hands, as they have a number of best of breed web apps. ... Also in the works is Microsoft's IE8. According to ActiveWin.com, a Microsoft official at CES told them that work has already begun for IE 8 and it may be released as a final product "within 18-24 months" ... if anything, I'd hazard a guess and say that IE8 will head back into ProprietaryLand - leaving Firefox to become more of a vehicle for independent web services, particularly those from Google. Brady Forrest runs with it: [geddit?]This is a great list of features (congrats to the team!). I'm glad to see more support for identity systems. If OpenID gets in, it will definitely aid in its adoption by both users and sites. The increased interactions with webservices would be great. I want to be able to open Word Docs into Writely or Zimbra in any browser from any site and enabling remote synchronization of bookmarks would be very handy. I really like the idea of not having to reboot FireFox when I want to try out an add-on. Ryan Wagner digs deeper:While Internet Explorer 7 might be a good browser, I think that one also has to look into the future before making a switch. Mozilla should have another milestone release of Firefox by the middle of 2007, but Internet Explorer 8 isn’t expected for 18 to 24 months. The slow development cycle of Internet Explorer is something that has always turned me away from the browser, and one of the big reasons I have always looked at alternatives like Opera and Firefox. I do believe that Internet Explorer 7 does some things better than Firefox, like handle feeds, but there are also things that Firefox does better like support a large range of user-created extensions.Mary Jo stares:Microsoft and the Mozilla Foundation are pushing ahead ... many of their priorities are — at least in theory — quite similar. ... Supposedly, there's already an alpha build of IE 8 circulating inside Redmond's hallowed halls, as well. Anyone out there seen it? ... The Mozilla folks are planning to release a new version of Firefox on a yearly basis, according to information shared on the wiki, "since it helps drive upgrades and adoption." That means Firefox 4 in 2008 ... Bill Gates said last year that he hoped the team would be able to release a browser on an annual basis, [but] the IE developers have been reluctant to commit to that timetable. The IE team has said it will up IE's compliance with Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) standards with future releases [and]:"Locking" a page to prevent users from accidentally navigating away from itAdding a "Find on Page" capabilityImproving username/password managementRestoring the "Image Toolbar" provided in earlier IE 7 test buildsChanging the download mechanism, perhaps eliminating the initial download to the "temporary Internet files" folderAdding easily editable config files (similar to Firefox's userChrome.css and UserContent.css)Enabling draggable tabs from one IE window to anotherConfiguring tabs so that each has its own private cookie cacheIntroducing new status bar info, possibly with fields such as "last accessed by user" and "window last updated"Enabling add-ons, such as stocks, movies, etc., a la Firefox Also, don't think that IE sucks, because it doesn't. Firefox wins in over all browser-using, since it's full of add ons, but that doesn't mean IE 7 is lame. It is a big big step from IE 6, and I'm going to bet IE 8 will be much better. Quote: [...] [...] Originally Posted by Computer World Fri, 01/12/2007 – 7:49am Just browsing IT Blogwatch, in which the browser wars rumble on, with early plans afoot for IE8 and Firefox 3/4. Not to mention Zefrank’s eight favorite animal noises… The Mozilla Project’s Percy Cabello popped in to say hi: In today’s Firefox 3 (code name Gran Paradiso) meeting, developers released a preliminary list of requirements for Firefox 3. The new target release date is sometime in the third quarter this year. Among the list of mandatory requirements … we have:Improved interaction with Add-ons …Support for remote bookmarks, bookmarks and history annotation.Files could be handled by web services. If I am reading this correctly, this could mean you would be able to click on an attached document and open it with something like Writely or Google Documents. And perhaps, as I asked Santa, the ability to redirect mailto: links to web email services.A much needed print support to prevent cut paragraphs and true WYSIWYG.The much requested MSI installer which will be a much welcomed improvement for IT administrators as it will ease deployment and updating of Firefox across a company.In the security front: support for Microsoft CardSpace and OpenID (check tomorrow’s article for more coverage on this). Smarter credentials handling.Airbag, the Google backed open source crash reporting tool will replace currently licensed TalkBack.Among the highly desirable requirements:A private web browsing mode …Save web pages as PDF files, integrated with history …Support pause/resume downloads across sessions.Make Firefox help accessible only while online …Microformats support.Richard MacManus read that, and wrote this:While Firefox is still aiming for a broad mainstream audience, Mozilla recognizes that its strengths for normal users are its extensions and customization. It notes on the wiki that "Microsoft will continue to establish deeper ties from IE7/Vista to live.com & MSN" and even that other "web service providers" may introduce their own browsers (Yahoo? Amazon?). So Firefox is aiming to be the best general Web browser. … The mandatory requirements listed … show that Firefox wants to be an independent information broker rather than a simple HTML renderer in its next version. Microformats will be a key part of this too – and this is currently listed as a "highly desirable" feature … good to see extensible identity management listed there. All of this encourages best-of-breed apps to flourish, which is an excellent direction for Mozilla to take with Firefox. It probably also plays into Google’s hands, as they have a number of best of breed web apps. … Also in the works is Microsoft’s IE8. According to ActiveWin.com, a Microsoft official at CES told them that work has already begun for IE 8 and it may be released as a final product "within 18-24 months" … if anything, I’d hazard a guess and say that IE8 will head back into ProprietaryLand – leaving Firefox to become more of a vehicle for independent web services, particularly those from Google. Brady Forrest runs with it: [geddit?]This is a great list of features (congrats to the team!). I’m glad to see more support for identity systems. If OpenID gets in, it will definitely aid in its adoption by both users and sites. The increased interactions with webservices would be great. I want to be able to open Word Docs into Writely or Zimbra in any browser from any site and enabling remote synchronization of bookmarks would be very handy. I really like the idea of not having to reboot FireFox when I want to try out an add-on. Ryan Wagner digs deeper:While Internet Explorer 7 might be a good browser, I think that one also has to look into the future before making a switch. Mozilla should have another milestone release of Firefox by the middle of 2007, but Internet Explorer 8 isn’t expected for 18 to 24 months. The slow development cycle of Internet Explorer is something that has always turned me away from the browser, and one of the big reasons I have always looked at alternatives like Opera and Firefox. I do believe that Internet Explorer 7 does some things better than Firefox, like handle feeds, but there are also things that Firefox does better like support a large range of user-created extensions.Mary Jo stares:Microsoft and the Mozilla Foundation are pushing ahead … many of their priorities are — at least in theory — quite similar. … Supposedly, there’s already an alpha build of IE 8 circulating inside Redmond’s hallowed halls, as well. Anyone out there seen it? … The Mozilla folks are planning to release a new version of Firefox on a yearly basis, according to information shared on the wiki, "since it helps drive upgrades and adoption." That means Firefox 4 in 2008 … Bill Gates said last year that he hoped the team would be able to release a browser on an annual basis, [but] the IE developers have been reluctant to commit to that timetable. The IE team has said it will up IE’s compliance with Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) standards with future releases [and]:"Locking" a page to prevent users from accidentally navigating away from itAdding a "Find on Page" capabilityImproving username/password managementRestoring the "Image Toolbar" provided in earlier IE 7 test buildsChanging the download mechanism, perhaps eliminating the initial download to the "temporary Internet files" folderAdding easily editable config files (similar to Firefox’s userChrome.css and UserContent.css)Enabling draggable tabs from one IE window to anotherConfiguring tabs so that each has its own private cookie cacheIntroducing new status bar info, possibly with fields such as "last accessed by user" and "window last updated"Enabling add-ons, such as stocks, movies, etc., a la Firefox Also, don’t think that IE sucks, because it doesn’t. Firefox wins in over all browser-using, since it’s full of add ons, but that doesn’t mean IE 7 is lame. It is a big big step from IE 6, and I’m going to bet IE 8 will be much better. Quote: [...]

]]> By: CoryC http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-78386 CoryC Sat, 13 Jan 2007 01:35:18 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-78386 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-77293">The Slasher wrote:</a><blockquote>FF 1.5 was great, but they went backwards with 2. Let's hope they wake up on FF 3.</blockquote></div> What do you mean? FF 2 is better that FF 1.5. The Slasher wrote:
FF 1.5 was great, but they went backwards with 2. Let’s hope they wake up on FF 3.

What do you mean? FF 2 is better that FF 1.5.

]]> By: New Media » Features that might be in Firefox 3 http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-78019 New Media » Features that might be in Firefox 3 Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:16:36 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-78019 [...] Ryan on CyberNet News has written about Firefox 3 Features That Might Make the Cut. [...] [...] Ryan on CyberNet News has written about Firefox 3 Features That Might Make the Cut. [...]

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-77919 Ryan Fri, 12 Jan 2007 17:22:13 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-77919 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-77777">SLA wrote:</a><blockquote><div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-77716">Ed wrote:</a><blockquote>PDF Reader (bloatware) from Adobe is yesterday. FoxitReader is the way to go for reading PDF's :)</blockquote></div> From Adobe it is "Adobe Reader", From Foxit it is "Foxit Reader", that's why I *intentionally* called it "PDF Reader" :) BTW, WinAmp is also yesterday. :) It is the most popular MP3 player, but it doesn't support Unicode ID3 tags!! While foobar2000 does, and even my "Creative ZEN Nano" hardware MP3 player does! Foobar2000 is not popular, but it is the best player for geeks :)</blockquote></div> I actually plan on writing up a review on Foobar2000 this weekend because another user mentioned it to me. :) SLA wrote:
Ed wrote:
PDF Reader (bloatware) from Adobe is yesterday. FoxitReader is the way to go for reading PDF’s :)

From Adobe it is “Adobe Reader”,
From Foxit it is “Foxit Reader”,
that’s why I *intentionally* called it “PDF Reader” :)

BTW, WinAmp is also yesterday. :) It is the most popular MP3 player, but it doesn’t support Unicode ID3 tags!!
While foobar2000 does, and even my “Creative ZEN Nano” hardware MP3 player does!
Foobar2000 is not popular, but it is the best player for geeks :)

I actually plan on writing up a review on Foobar2000 this weekend because another user mentioned it to me. :)

]]> By: SLA http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-77777 SLA Fri, 12 Jan 2007 14:28:58 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-77777 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-77716">Ed wrote:</a><blockquote>PDF Reader (bloatware) from Adobe is yesterday. FoxitReader is the way to go for reading PDF's :)</blockquote></div> From Adobe it is "Adobe Reader", From Foxit it is "Foxit Reader", that's why I *intentionally* called it "PDF Reader" :) BTW, WinAmp is also yesterday. :) It is the most popular MP3 player, but it doesn't support Unicode ID3 tags!! While foobar2000 does, and even my "Creative ZEN Nano" hardware MP3 player does! Foobar2000 is not popular, but it is the best player for geeks :) Ed wrote:
PDF Reader (bloatware) from Adobe is yesterday. FoxitReader is the way to go for reading PDF’s :)

From Adobe it is “Adobe Reader”,
From Foxit it is “Foxit Reader”,
that’s why I *intentionally* called it “PDF Reader” :)

BTW, WinAmp is also yesterday. :) It is the most popular MP3 player, but it doesn’t support Unicode ID3 tags!!
While foobar2000 does, and even my “Creative ZEN Nano” hardware MP3 player does!
Foobar2000 is not popular, but it is the best player for geeks :)

]]> By: Ed http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-77716 Ed Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:38:52 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-77716 <blockquote>just like everybody installs PDF Reader</blockquote> PDF Reader (bloatware) from Adobe is yesterday. FoxitReader is the way to go for reading PDF's :)

just like everybody installs PDF Reader

PDF Reader (bloatware) from Adobe is yesterday. FoxitReader is the way to go for reading PDF’s :)

]]> By: SLA http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-77559 SLA Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:52:25 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-77559 <blockquote>Paul Thurrot: Unlike its major competitor, Internet Explorer 7 (see my review), Firefox 2 doesn’t include any truly major new features.</blockquote> Whatta stupid review(er)! Of course, IE7 have MORE improvements over IE6, than Firefox 2.0 over Firefox 1.5. Why? Just because Microsoft don't have to invent anything, they are just copying other browsers' features (trying to get IE up to Firefox level). And who invents? Mozilla does! There have to be SOMEONE, who hates Firefox2, like Paul Thurrot, because everybody else loves Firefox2. :D Firefox2 is already better (in overall) than most other browser. Of course, there are also some other great browsers like Opera and Safari, but Firefox development cycle is VERY FAST, I'm sure, Firefox 4.0 or 5.0 or 6.0 will be the best. Seriously! :) Maybe one day, every Windows user will install Firefox, just like everybody installs PDF Reader, Nero, WinAmp, Skype or ICQ...

Paul Thurrot:
Unlike its major competitor, Internet Explorer 7 (see my review), Firefox 2 doesn’t include any truly major new features.

Whatta stupid review(er)! Of course, IE7 have MORE improvements over IE6, than Firefox 2.0 over Firefox 1.5. Why? Just because Microsoft don’t have to invent anything, they are just copying other browsers’ features (trying to get IE up to Firefox level).

And who invents? Mozilla does!

There have to be SOMEONE, who hates Firefox2, like Paul Thurrot, because everybody else loves Firefox2. :D Firefox2 is already better (in overall) than most other browser. Of course, there are also some other great browsers like Opera and Safari, but Firefox development cycle is VERY FAST, I’m sure, Firefox 4.0 or 5.0 or 6.0 will be the best. Seriously! :) Maybe one day, every Windows user will install Firefox, just like everybody installs PDF Reader, Nero, WinAmp, Skype or ICQ…

]]> By: Ed http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/comment-page-1/#comment-77327 Ed Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:56:48 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/01/11/firefox-3-features-that-might-make-the-cut/#comment-77327 Firefox isn't perfect but what in this world is? It still beats I.E hands down in my book if for no other reason than it does offer extensions by different developers thus extending its usability. Making it easier for computer neophytes to add extensions would add to its popularity & ease of use for such ones. Firefox isn’t perfect but what in this world is? It still beats I.E hands down in my book if for no other reason than it does offer extensions by different developers thus extending its usability. Making it easier for computer neophytes to add extensions would add to its popularity & ease of use for such ones.

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