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		<title>By: Change</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/firefox-opera-users-are-the-most-apt-to-update/comment-page-1/#comment-140257</link>
		<dc:creator>Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-140251&quot;&gt;Ryan wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Huh, that’s interesting. Only about 2% of our Opera visitors are using 8.x. The other 98% are using Opera 9.x.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Shows how cutting-edge your visitors are! Something to be proud of :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-140251">Ryan wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Huh, that’s interesting. Only about 2% of our Opera visitors are using 8.x. The other 98% are using Opera 9.x.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Shows how cutting-edge your visitors are! Something to be proud of <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-140232&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Hi,
I wonder if I could get those gogles pictured above.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That is something I just made up. They are Oakley glasses with the logos overlayed on the lenses.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-140234&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It&#039;s Meee wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I love all the statistics. Too funny that the official browser web pages say something different. 

Opera for example… not even the half of the users are using the latest version but stick with 8.x, their page says.

When I look at my web host stats I can confirm this. 50% of my users are using 8.x, only 35% are using 9.x, the others are older versions of Opera.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Huh, that&#039;s interesting. Only about 2% of our Opera visitors are using 8.x. The other 98% are using Opera 9.x.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-140232" rel="nofollow">Anonymous wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Hi,<br />
I wonder if I could get those gogles pictured above.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That is something I just made up. They are Oakley glasses with the logos overlayed on the lenses.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-140234" rel="nofollow">It&#8217;s Meee wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I love all the statistics. Too funny that the official browser web pages say something different. </p>
<p>Opera for example… not even the half of the users are using the latest version but stick with 8.x, their page says.</p>
<p>When I look at my web host stats I can confirm this. 50% of my users are using 8.x, only 35% are using 9.x, the others are older versions of Opera.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Huh, that&#8217;s interesting. Only about 2% of our Opera visitors are using 8.x. The other 98% are using Opera 9.x.</p>
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		<title>By: It's Meee</title>
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		<dc:creator>It's Meee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all the statistics. Too funny that the official browser web pages say something different. 

Opera for example... not even the half of the users are using the latest version but stick with 8.x, their page says.


When I look at my web host stats I can confirm this. 50% of my users are using 8.x, only 35% are using 9.x, the others are older versions of Opera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all the statistics. Too funny that the official browser web pages say something different. </p>
<p>Opera for example&#8230; not even the half of the users are using the latest version but stick with 8.x, their page says.</p>
<p>When I look at my web host stats I can confirm this. 50% of my users are using 8.x, only 35% are using 9.x, the others are older versions of Opera.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I wonder if I could get those gogles pictured above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I wonder if I could get those gogles pictured above.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still see plenty of Firefox 1.0.7 (not aware of 1.0.8 that came out some six months later) users asking for support.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-140190&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tinhed wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;But 1 thing i find pretty interesting.A sizeable chunk of FF users are Linux users and most distro’s including ubuntu have the inbuilt updater disabled.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Short answer, this is because Mozilla can only update their own builds as you cannot expect them  to update a unofficial/third-party build not made by Mozilla (especially sight unseen) as there could be a lot of differences. The Firefox builds from from Mozilla is easy enough to set up and use (untar and run), yet some Linux users make me wonder why they switched to Linux when they ask &quot;where is the installer(like on Windows)&quot; or &quot;Ok, I finally managed to extract this but how do I make or install this etc&quot;

I use Linux, but I do use the distro provided builds, especially since I test/use nightlies.

There were plans in the past for Mozilla to work with the more popular Linux distros to get the Linux distro builds of Firefox listed on Mozilla.org or mozilla.com so people can find them or be aware there are updates at time, but this has not happened yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still see plenty of Firefox 1.0.7 (not aware of 1.0.8 that came out some six months later) users asking for support.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-140190" rel="nofollow">Tinhed wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>But 1 thing i find pretty interesting.A sizeable chunk of FF users are Linux users and most distro’s including ubuntu have the inbuilt updater disabled.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Short answer, this is because Mozilla can only update their own builds as you cannot expect them  to update a unofficial/third-party build not made by Mozilla (especially sight unseen) as there could be a lot of differences. The Firefox builds from from Mozilla is easy enough to set up and use (untar and run), yet some Linux users make me wonder why they switched to Linux when they ask &#8220;where is the installer(like on Windows)&#8221; or &#8220;Ok, I finally managed to extract this but how do I make or install this etc&#8221;</p>
<p>I use Linux, but I do use the distro provided builds, especially since I test/use nightlies.</p>
<p>There were plans in the past for Mozilla to work with the more popular Linux distros to get the Linux distro builds of Firefox listed on Mozilla.org or mozilla.com so people can find them or be aware there are updates at time, but this has not happened yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Change</title>
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		<dc:creator>Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also regarding security that wouldn&#039;t be totally fair though. I doubt the security risks for IE6 running within larger companies is much higher than for IE7, with a solid firewall and network protection. Larger companies are responsible for quite a big chunk of the stats (unfortunately).

I agree that my home situation is not really comparable and I wouldn&#039;t recommend anyone to do the same, especially if they&#039;re not really aware of what they&#039;re doing :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also regarding security that wouldn&#8217;t be totally fair though. I doubt the security risks for IE6 running within larger companies is much higher than for IE7, with a solid firewall and network protection. Larger companies are responsible for quite a big chunk of the stats (unfortunately).</p>
<p>I agree that my home situation is not really comparable and I wouldn&#8217;t recommend anyone to do the same, especially if they&#8217;re not really aware of what they&#8217;re doing <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-140212&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Change wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;At both my current job as well as my previous one, they’re also still using IE6 on all machines. Mainly because of compatibility reasons regarding the sites and webapps people need to visit.

It’s quite easy to get to this percentage this way, and not really a fair comparison imo.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That&#039;s true, but they are saying you aren&#039;t considered to be secure since IE7 helps protect you from phishing and spyware attacks, which is something IE6 wasn&#039;t designed to do. I can kinda understand that since there was like a 7 year gap between the releases, and the web changed a lot during that time. At the same time I can see what you&#039;re saying where a lot of people haven&#039;t upgraded for compatibility reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-140212" rel="nofollow">Change wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>At both my current job as well as my previous one, they’re also still using IE6 on all machines. Mainly because of compatibility reasons regarding the sites and webapps people need to visit.</p>
<p>It’s quite easy to get to this percentage this way, and not really a fair comparison imo.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That&#8217;s true, but they are saying you aren&#8217;t considered to be secure since IE7 helps protect you from phishing and spyware attacks, which is something IE6 wasn&#8217;t designed to do. I can kinda understand that since there was like a 7 year gap between the releases, and the web changed a lot during that time. At the same time I can see what you&#8217;re saying where a lot of people haven&#8217;t upgraded for compatibility reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Change</title>
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		<dc:creator>Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the problem regarding IE6/IE7. I&#039;m still running IE6 at home because I find IE7 slower in many aspects and less stable. It&#039;s only used for IE Tab and RSS readers (built-in) though, so in a controlled environment more or less.

At both my current job as well as my previous one, they&#039;re also still using IE6 on all machines. Mainly because of compatibility reasons regarding the sites and webapps people need to visit.

It&#039;s quite easy to get to this percentage this way, and not really a fair comparison imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the problem regarding IE6/IE7. I&#8217;m still running IE6 at home because I find IE7 slower in many aspects and less stable. It&#8217;s only used for IE Tab and RSS readers (built-in) though, so in a controlled environment more or less.</p>
<p>At both my current job as well as my previous one, they&#8217;re also still using IE6 on all machines. Mainly because of compatibility reasons regarding the sites and webapps people need to visit.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite easy to get to this percentage this way, and not really a fair comparison imo.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Upegui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Omar Upegui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re absolutely right about people knowing exactly the version of their browsers.  I&#039;m a fanatic tracing when a new version is released.  I also like to write a post about it spreading the word.  

The Web is a mines field and many innocent surfers have been hurt with malicious software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right about people knowing exactly the version of their browsers.  I&#8217;m a fanatic tracing when a new version is released.  I also like to write a post about it spreading the word.  </p>
<p>The Web is a mines field and many innocent surfers have been hurt with malicious software.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-140190&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tinhed wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;But 1 thing i find pretty interesting.A sizeable chunk of FF users are Linux users and most distro’s including ubuntu have the inbuilt updater disabled. So you really have to rely on something like synaptic to get FF updated. So that 92.2% is really significant coz i guess it includes linux users( like me) too. Is it just because linux users are a little bit more tech savvy and concerned about browser vulnerabilities.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I think the tech savvy crowd is always more aware of new releases, and I think most people upgrade because it takes no time at all. If someone is made aware that an important update is available I have a feeling that most people would upgrade. So the underlying problem here is making IE users aware that an update is available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-140190" rel="nofollow">Tinhed wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>But 1 thing i find pretty interesting.A sizeable chunk of FF users are Linux users and most distro’s including ubuntu have the inbuilt updater disabled. So you really have to rely on something like synaptic to get FF updated. So that 92.2% is really significant coz i guess it includes linux users( like me) too. Is it just because linux users are a little bit more tech savvy and concerned about browser vulnerabilities.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I think the tech savvy crowd is always more aware of new releases, and I think most people upgrade because it takes no time at all. If someone is made aware that an important update is available I have a feeling that most people would upgrade. So the underlying problem here is making IE users aware that an update is available.</p>
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