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		<title>By: Garfnikon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garfnikon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have set up my laptop on dual boot Windows XP &amp; Ubuntu 8.04.

a. Outlook send/receives emails (POP3) and is set to DELETE from
server after downloading (username setup as username@gmail.com). (I then auto backup and archive these in an external HDD).

b. Thunderbird in Ubuntu is set to receive emails (POP3) from the same
account and leave a copy on the server after downloading (username
setup as recent:username@gmail.com).

c. My HTC Touch Pro is setup to receive emails (POP3) and leave a copy
on the server after downloading (username setup as recent:username@gmail.com).

PROBLEM: In my HTC Touch Pro mobile when I do a send/receive the next day
(after the emails have been downloaded and are deleted from the server by my PC), all my copies of earlier downloaded emails disappears from my mobile phone as well. I would like to retain my emails until I manually delete them from my mobile phone?

The whole purpose of having emails on multi clients is defeated if I
can&#039;t read my older emails and action them while I am mobile also I cannot setup an auto send/receive as it will delete the emails.

Some very smart programmer either at Gmail or at HTC mobile tried to out think the user&#039;s requirements and messed up as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have set up my laptop on dual boot Windows XP &amp; Ubuntu 8.04.</p>
<p>a. Outlook send/receives emails (POP3) and is set to DELETE from<br />
server after downloading (username setup as <a href="mailto:username@gmail.com">username@gmail.com</a>). (I then auto backup and archive these in an external HDD).</p>
<p>b. Thunderbird in Ubuntu is set to receive emails (POP3) from the same<br />
account and leave a copy on the server after downloading (username<br />
setup as recent:username@gmail.com).</p>
<p>c. My HTC Touch Pro is setup to receive emails (POP3) and leave a copy<br />
on the server after downloading (username setup as recent:username@gmail.com).</p>
<p>PROBLEM: In my HTC Touch Pro mobile when I do a send/receive the next day<br />
(after the emails have been downloaded and are deleted from the server by my PC), all my copies of earlier downloaded emails disappears from my mobile phone as well. I would like to retain my emails until I manually delete them from my mobile phone?</p>
<p>The whole purpose of having emails on multi clients is defeated if I<br />
can&#8217;t read my older emails and action them while I am mobile also I cannot setup an auto send/receive as it will delete the emails.</p>
<p>Some very smart programmer either at Gmail or at HTC mobile tried to out think the user&#8217;s requirements and messed up as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Derfor MÅ du ta backup av din Gmail-konto - Leif Dalands blogg - IT &#38; Produktivitet</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Derfor MÅ du ta backup av din Gmail-konto - Leif Dalands blogg - IT &#38; Produktivitet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 10:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeg skriver dette både med bakgrunn i at Gmail fremdeles etter 3 år på markedet er på betastadiet, noe vi endel ganger opplever gjennom nyhetsmediet hvor vi hører om kontoer som plutselig er deaktivert. Andre ganger opplever brukere at e-post simpelten forsvinner. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeg skriver dette både med bakgrunn i at Gmail fremdeles etter 3 år på markedet er på betastadiet, noe vi endel ganger opplever gjennom nyhetsmediet hvor vi hører om kontoer som plutselig er deaktivert. Andre ganger opplever brukere at e-post simpelten forsvinner. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-63731&quot;&gt;Knight wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I basically have a copy of my emails on my pc and on their server. Situations like this is the reason I take extra steps to cover all bases. But then again, my hdd could crash and gmail servers at the same time.  :P&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
If both crash you better step back from your computer for awhile.

&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-64080&quot;&gt;OldManDeath wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I would not be surprised to see in the very near future, the capability added to Gmail a backup/restore function.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I would think it would be coming soon as well, but you can never tell with these companies.

&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-64220&quot;&gt;bob wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;No doubt, Google should give us an option to backup our Gmail accounts.

But am I worried enough to go back to using a POP client like Tbird or Outlook?  Not if its only a few Gmail accounts out of the millions being used are affected, there are far more important things be concerned about.

Come on guys, don&#039;t be listening to the &quot;sky is falling&quot; crowd.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Well, if it has happened to 60 other people who is to say that it wouldn&#039;t happen to you. When you don&#039;t plan for the worst is when the worst happens. I&#039;ll take my chances of being safe rather than sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-63731">Knight wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I basically have a copy of my emails on my pc and on their server. Situations like this is the reason I take extra steps to cover all bases. But then again, my hdd could crash and gmail servers at the same time.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>If both crash you better step back from your computer for awhile.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-64080">OldManDeath wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I would not be surprised to see in the very near future, the capability added to Gmail a backup/restore function.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I would think it would be coming soon as well, but you can never tell with these companies.</p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-64220">bob wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>No doubt, Google should give us an option to backup our Gmail accounts.</p>
<p>But am I worried enough to go back to using a POP client like Tbird or Outlook?  Not if its only a few Gmail accounts out of the millions being used are affected, there are far more important things be concerned about.</p>
<p>Come on guys, don&#8217;t be listening to the &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; crowd.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Well, if it has happened to 60 other people who is to say that it wouldn&#8217;t happen to you. When you don&#8217;t plan for the worst is when the worst happens. I&#8217;ll take my chances of being safe rather than sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: OldManDeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManDeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-64220&quot;&gt;bob wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Come on guys, don&#039;t be listening to the &quot;sky is falling&quot; crowd.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

The sky is falling? 8O  Oh No!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-64220">bob wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Come on guys, don&#8217;t be listening to the &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; crowd.</p></blockquote>
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<p>The sky is falling? <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt='8O' class='wp-smiley' />  Oh No!!!!!!!!!!!!!  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fx Extension Guru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fx Extension Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-64220&quot;&gt;bob wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;But am I worried enough to go back to using a POP client like Tbird or Outlook? Not if its only a few Gmail accounts out of the millions being used are affected, there are far more important things be concerned about.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

Hopefully it is only a &quot;few&quot; Gmail accounts, but this is the &#039;risk&#039; you take with any online e-mail provider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-64220">bob wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>But am I worried enough to go back to using a POP client like Tbird or Outlook? Not if its only a few Gmail accounts out of the millions being used are affected, there are far more important things be concerned about.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Hopefully it is only a &#8220;few&#8221; Gmail accounts, but this is the &#8216;risk&#8217; you take with any online e-mail provider.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt, Google should give us an option to backup our Gmail accounts.  

But am I worried enough to go back to using a POP client like Tbird or Outlook?  Not if its only a few Gmail accounts out of the millions being used are affected, there are far more important things be concerned about.

Come on guys, don&#039;t be listening to the &quot;sky is falling&quot; crowd.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt, Google should give us an option to backup our Gmail accounts.  </p>
<p>But am I worried enough to go back to using a POP client like Tbird or Outlook?  Not if its only a few Gmail accounts out of the millions being used are affected, there are far more important things be concerned about.</p>
<p>Come on guys, don&#8217;t be listening to the &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; crowd.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: OldManDeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManDeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not be surprised to see in the very near future, the capability added to Gmail a backup/restore function.

Personally, I use Gmail for 100% of my email.  Luckily I have never had an issue like this.  While I do have a lot of email, if it got wiped out, it would not devastate me.

The one thing that I did not see mentioned, was if this wiped out all their contacts as well.  That would devastate me and just makes me believe that it is time to create a backup of my contacts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not be surprised to see in the very near future, the capability added to Gmail a backup/restore function.</p>
<p>Personally, I use Gmail for 100% of my email.  Luckily I have never had an issue like this.  While I do have a lot of email, if it got wiped out, it would not devastate me.</p>
<p>The one thing that I did not see mentioned, was if this wiped out all their contacts as well.  That would devastate me and just makes me believe that it is time to create a backup of my contacts.</p>
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		<title>By: netster007x</title>
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		<dc:creator>netster007x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 08:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, just shows that despite Gmail&#039;s seemingly rock-solid performance, it certainly isn&#039;t flawless.  Once again kinda glad I use Yahoo! mail beta (and Fx2.0.0.1).  I see you found out a way to download messages, I was gonna mention that Yahoo! mail lets you download messages, although it&#039;s only for paying users.  That would really suck for that to happen to you.  It&#039;s almost funny how they triumphantly mention they revived a week of Email as if it makes the slightest difference.  Luckily it looks like there were only a few victims, but for them this certainly a grave matter.

Pray, Gmailers, pray!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, just shows that despite Gmail&#8217;s seemingly rock-solid performance, it certainly isn&#8217;t flawless.  Once again kinda glad I use Yahoo! mail beta (and Fx2.0.0.1).  I see you found out a way to download messages, I was gonna mention that Yahoo! mail lets you download messages, although it&#8217;s only for paying users.  That would really suck for that to happen to you.  It&#8217;s almost funny how they triumphantly mention they revived a week of Email as if it makes the slightest difference.  Luckily it looks like there were only a few victims, but for them this certainly a grave matter.</p>
<p>Pray, Gmailers, pray!</p>
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		<title>By: Fx Extension Guru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fx Extension Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-63720&quot;&gt;javasharp wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I had some problems using gmail in firefox 2.0. It works perfectly in IE.

smelling something fishy?

http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2006/mfsa2006-72.html&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

Oh one of &lt;i&gt;those&lt;/i&gt; bugs. Don&#039;t have high enough clearnace on my Bugzilla account to view details of this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-63720">javasharp wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I had some problems using gmail in firefox 2.0. It works perfectly in IE.</p>
<p>smelling something fishy?</p>
<p>[<a href='http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2006/mfsa2006-72.html' rel='nofollow'>mozilla.org</a>]</p></blockquote>
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<p>Oh one of <i>those</i> bugs. Don&#8217;t have high enough clearnace on my Bugzilla account to view details of this one.</p>
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		<title>By: navil</title>
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		<dc:creator>navil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to POP all my gmail mails to my PC, and use gmail as a backup only (just in case my PC crashed). 

After this incident I should probably think of my PC as the backup just incase gmail crashed :=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to POP all my gmail mails to my PC, and use gmail as a backup only (just in case my PC crashed). </p>
<p>After this incident I should probably think of my PC as the backup just incase gmail crashed :=)</p>
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