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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/iphone-battery-cause-of-class-action-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-112552</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 04:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the amount of space Vista takes up just isn&#039;t needed. The problem is that they continue to maximize the amount of backwards compatibility, and by doing that they have to include the older legacy code. So it&#039;s probably like you have all of XP on your drive while you have Vista installed.

One of the things that still astonishes me is that they were able to cut the install time in half with Vista (I can finish the installation within 20 minutes).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the amount of space Vista takes up just isn&#8217;t needed. The problem is that they continue to maximize the amount of backwards compatibility, and by doing that they have to include the older legacy code. So it&#8217;s probably like you have all of XP on your drive while you have Vista installed.</p>
<p>One of the things that still astonishes me is that they were able to cut the install time in half with Vista (I can finish the installation within 20 minutes).</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My customised XP takes 3.4GB (all updates installed and updated) Still more then I though. One of reasons for not buying vista is size it takes it, its just not needed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My customised XP takes 3.4GB (all updates installed and updated) Still more then I though. One of reasons for not buying vista is size it takes it, its just not needed</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netster is definitely right. Vista takes up about 15GB (and you thought 6GB was a lot :) ) and when you buy a PC they don&#039;t take that into account. Of course I think that in the case of the iPhone the size is much more important since you don&#039;t have that much storage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netster is definitely right. Vista takes up about 15GB (and you thought 6GB was a lot <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and when you buy a PC they don&#8217;t take that into account. Of course I think that in the case of the iPhone the size is much more important since you don&#8217;t have that much storage.</p>
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		<title>By: netster007x</title>
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		<dc:creator>netster007x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But that&#039;s how it is with any memory using device.  The OS will always take some space, and there&#039;s no economic way to buy an 8.76GB HD.  Technically, the Hard Drive in devices is the size they advertise, they just don&#039;t tell you you can&#039;t use it all.

WindowsXP takes up 6.3GB of my 40GB HD (that&#039;s a lot!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that&#8217;s how it is with any memory using device.  The OS will always take some space, and there&#8217;s no economic way to buy an 8.76GB HD.  Technically, the Hard Drive in devices is the size they advertise, they just don&#8217;t tell you you can&#8217;t use it all.</p>
<p>WindowsXP takes up 6.3GB of my 40GB HD (that&#8217;s a lot!).</p>
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		<title>By: cannontrane</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/iphone-battery-cause-of-class-action-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-112430</link>
		<dc:creator>cannontrane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything, the class-action suit should be brought against Apple for selling an &quot;8GB&quot; model that only has 7.24GB of usable space. Last time I checked, 7.24gb is a hell of a lot closer to 7GB than it is 8GB. There&#039;s the REAL lawsuit that should be sought...just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything, the class-action suit should be brought against Apple for selling an &#8220;8GB&#8221; model that only has 7.24GB of usable space. Last time I checked, 7.24gb is a hell of a lot closer to 7GB than it is 8GB. There&#8217;s the REAL lawsuit that should be sought&#8230;just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/iphone-battery-cause-of-class-action-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-112284</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think that it is a ridiculous lawsuit. I remember buying Pocket PC&#039;s back in the day that didn&#039;t come with user replaceable batteries, and instead of sending them in to get repaired I just took it apart myself and did it. That way it costed me $20 instead of $80, so the situation seems about the same. People just need to wait for the &quot;do it yourself&quot; kits to become available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think that it is a ridiculous lawsuit. I remember buying Pocket PC&#8217;s back in the day that didn&#8217;t come with user replaceable batteries, and instead of sending them in to get repaired I just took it apart myself and did it. That way it costed me $20 instead of $80, so the situation seems about the same. People just need to wait for the &#8220;do it yourself&#8221; kits to become available.</p>
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		<title>By: OldManDeath</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManDeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a frivolous lawsuit.  It is also one other reason that I will wait till version 2 or 3 before I would consider getting an iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a frivolous lawsuit.  It is also one other reason that I will wait till version 2 or 3 before I would consider getting an iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/iphone-battery-cause-of-class-action-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-111943</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes sense for Apple to replace the batteries because then they get the money for it. If Apple made the iPhone with a battery that could be replaced by the user, they would have to charge less for just a battery than for battery + service + shipping. It&#039;s like they want a monopoly on everything to do with the iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense for Apple to replace the batteries because then they get the money for it. If Apple made the iPhone with a battery that could be replaced by the user, they would have to charge less for just a battery than for battery + service + shipping. It&#8217;s like they want a monopoly on everything to do with the iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: Sleepy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sleepy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lawsuit is frivolous but I think the fact that the battery isn&#039;t user replaceable is ridiculous.  I don&#039;t think it has much if anything to do with the thinness of the phone or an iPod.  I think it is about money.  I bet Apple has a little profit from the battery replacement.  Also, some people may decide to invest in a new iPhone or iPod when it comes time to replace the battery since it costs so much to replace it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lawsuit is frivolous but I think the fact that the battery isn&#8217;t user replaceable is ridiculous.  I don&#8217;t think it has much if anything to do with the thinness of the phone or an iPod.  I think it is about money.  I bet Apple has a little profit from the battery replacement.  Also, some people may decide to invest in a new iPhone or iPod when it comes time to replace the battery since it costs so much to replace it.</p>
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		<title>By: netster007x</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/iphone-battery-cause-of-class-action-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-111938</link>
		<dc:creator>netster007x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems kinda frivolous.  There are plenty of products that don&#039;t have user replaceable batteries.  Is iPod&#039;s battery removable?

My guess is that a removable battery would have been at the expense of the iPhone&#039;s ultra thinness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems kinda frivolous.  There are plenty of products that don&#8217;t have user replaceable batteries.  Is iPod&#8217;s battery removable?</p>
<p>My guess is that a removable battery would have been at the expense of the iPhone&#8217;s ultra thinness.</p>
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