Choose Mac or Windows There are a lot of Apple fans out there these days, and I have nothing against them. I don’t use any Apple products aside from the iPod, but I do think it is good that they are emerging successful in the computer market so that there is more competition. And good competition often means that the consumers win.

For those of you who put Apple up on a pedestal there is an article by PC World that you should read. Mike Elgan, the author of the article, lists off reasons he believes Apple is turning into Microsoft…despite being an Apple supporter himself.

I’m not going to quote his entire article because it is quite lengthy, but I thought I would pull out the interesting facts that he made regarding different areas of Apple.

–Apple as a Monopolist–

Microsoft was criticized for bundling Internet Explorer with Windows, yet Apple can bundle iTunes with the iPods and iPhone? Heck, you can’t even make a call on the iPhone without activating it through iTunes first. Not only that but Mac OS X, the iPhone, and the new iPod Touch all come pre-installed with Safari.

–Apple as a Copycat–

Microsoft has always been criticized for copying ideas from other companies, but Apple might not be as innocent as you think:

  • For more than a decade multitouch interfaces, similar to the iPhone’s, have been demonstrated.
  • Apple’s new iPod Touch now has built-in WiFi, yet both Microsoft’s Zune and SanDisk’s Sansa Connect MP3 players have had that feature for quite some time.

Of course Apple’s implementation of the features are much better than anything we’ve seen prior, but the fact of the matter is that many Apple fanboys shower praise on ideas that Apple didn’t even pioneer.

–Apple as a Bully–

Yes, Apple does its fair share of pushing people around. Recently NBC wanted to charge more for their television shows being offered on iTunes, and when Apple declined NBC announced that they were pulling out. The author of the article says that NBC will come crawling back to Apple after they realize that the only way to succeed in digital downloads is to have your content on iTunes.

I would also like to add one of my own thoughts to this as well. Microsoft has always made Windows an operating system that works on millions of different hardware configurations…even on the new Intel Mac’s. Apple, however, is very possessive over their operating system and require that you purchase one of their high-priced pieces of hardware if you want to run it. So while Windows may cost more to buy than Mac OS X, I don’t think that you can pickup a new Macbook for $500 like you can do for a Windows computer.

It probably sounds like I’m anti-Apple, but that’s not the case at all. As I previously said I love that Apple is providing some stiff competition for Microsoft because in the end the consumer will always benefit.I just thought that the PC World article was a real eye-opener by showing that the two companies may not be as different as you think.

There Are 136 Comments

  1. Apple/Microsoft/Google
    You just wait that name will be there soon! :twisted:

    • Windows is an ” accident ” waiting to happen. The computer gets slowed
      down by virus updates + updates by microsoft. The same year you bought your computer…you will be paying again, and again, and………..

      This means REPAIR BILLS and Dollar BILLS for Bill !

      The AFTERMARKET in REPAIRS is big business.

    • hehe, nice one.

  2. You’re just jealous that Macs are more trendy than other computers. ;)

    So what do you call someone who uses both Apple and Microsoft?

  3. Apple, so far, is nice. M$ has always been evil.

  4. Apple has far superior hardware and software, in my opinion, but is way overpriced. Sometimes, it doesn’t matter who is ‘better’ – it matters what’s good value. i.e. the price for an Apple mouse in Australian dollars? $99.00

    I don’t care who’s better or that I love MacOS a million times more than Windows, I won’t ever pay $99 for a mouse, and other overpriced hardware.

    • a windows mouse cost $8.

    • HAHA Windows Mouse? You mean the cheap (quality wise) and ugly mouse? Plus I don’t have to use the mouse that comes with the iMac. I use a wireless Logitech mouse. I hate how many people claim that the default Apple mouse is most likely replaced with another brand? So what? like many of you Windows users don’t get a different mouse?

    • apple has far superior hardware???? sir you must be joking, apple is back in the year 2003 with 80% of their hardware, whereas with and windows based computer you can chose what hardware you want. oh and i wont ever pay $1600 for a computer with a dual core processor. and as for the mouse issue, honestly the mouse that came with my computer is awesome. i spent $1800 the get a quad core i7, nvidia gt8800, 4 gigs of ram, windows 7 64 bit, and a terabyte and a half of storage. lets see apple do that. oh, and have any of you seen a mac crash? thats painful even for a pc user to witness, at least i can fix my pc if it breaks. with a mac you’re screwed

    • Windows suck’s.

  5. Not to forget that Apple places wrong announcements about being first in something: I know that at least Opera was prior to bring the full web on a phone and also on music/video players

    (I don’t repeat the details about Apples announcements as this just would strengthen the myths)

  6. apple sucks….their ipods and computers may be sleek, but they force you to use their own hardware/software as in the case of itunes…

    i personally believe microsoft is good…they may have their share of unfair practices, but i would definitely choose windows to mac anyday or a creative zen vision m to an ipod…

  7. Makes sense but people don’t see that way just yet, but in time maybe.

  8. Andrew wrote:
    You’re just jealous that Macs are more trendy than other computers. ;)
    So what do you call someone who uses both Apple and Microsoft?

    Trendy maybe, but that’s the least of my concern.

    Michael Dobrofsky wrote:
    I don’t care who’s better or that I love MacOS a million times more than Windows, I won’t ever pay $99 for a mouse, and other overpriced hardware.

    Yeah, their hardware is overpriced, but to be fair PC’s also have their own overpriced hardware. Of course it is mostly targeted at gamers.

    llama wrote:
    i personally believe microsoft is good…they may have their share of unfair practices, but i would definitely choose windows to mac anyday or a creative zen vision m to an ipod…

    That’s what I think…Microsoft is good, but they too have their own faults. Sometimes it is like trying to pick a cellphone carrier where you know that they all have their downfalls, and it prevents you from being decisive on which one to choose.

    Mohan wrote:
    Makes sense but people don’t see that way just yet, but in time maybe.

    I thought by now people will have started to “see the light”, but I think Apple’s marketshare needs to get bigger before companies start to take them on as a viable Windows competitor (especially in the business arena).

  9. I prefer Apple over MS (mostly because there are OPTIONS to Apple) but what people need to realize is that these are businesses. They are out to make money.

    • Agreed, if people want an OS that cares about the public go with Ubuntu

    • Ther are no options in apple.

    • its coled source vs open source, how does apple have any options other than apple? microsoft is open source, you can download and use any software. that also leads to the security debate. the only reason macs dont get virus’ often is because you can download 3rd party software for them, and in windows you can which is why occasionally you get something fake.

  10. Apple is a copycat as well. Creative invented the iPod interface, which Apple stole for use in the iPod. Creative sued and Apple paid them $10 million, however Creative continues to lose money because of the iPod. Creative makes great line of MP3 players called the ZEN, which are better the iPod, but get no recogition.

    • OK if apple is a copycat then what would you call Microsoft because Bill Gates didn’t even invent the mouse Xerox did and Bill Gates stole it from them right out of the Xerox offices. the only thing Bill Gates has done is made it easier to navigate on a computer and how to sell them for cheap by giving u cheaply made products, as apple sells it for the regular computer price because they actually care about quality

  11. Davin Peterson wrote:
    Apple is a copycat as well. Creative invented the iPod interface, which Apple stole for use in the iPod. Creative sued and Apple paid them $10 million, however Creative continues to lose money because of the iPod. Creative makes great line of MP3 players called the ZEN, which are better the iPod, but get no recogition.

    Creative will continue to have these problems though just like how the Zune will never really take off. Companies are making their accessories and applications to ensure compatibility with iPods, but none others. It’s just like some mapping software that I use…it lets me export maps to the iPod if I want.

    Jen wrote:
    I prefer Apple over MS (mostly because there are OPTIONS to Apple) but what people need to realize is that these are businesses. They are out to make money.

    That’s true, and the competition I believe is a good thing.

  12. :evil: :evil: :)

  13. What is better? A Mercedes or a BMW? A Nissan or a Toyota? It’s relative, I would say. What I see problematic is when people only use one thing and disregard the rest. Variety is the salt of life. I like Microsoft. I like Apple. Simply because I have used both and can appreciate when something is good or even superb.

  14. Gruffydd wrote:
    What is better? A Mercedes or a BMW? A Nissan or a Toyota? It’s relative, I would say. What I see problematic is when people only use one thing and disregard the rest. Variety is the salt of life. I like Microsoft. I like Apple. Simply because I have used both and can appreciate when something is good or even superb.

    I too have used both and when you have, you’re right that you can realy appreciate when something is good. We’ve said over and over again that both Microsoft and Apple have great things about them, but they also have their flaws.

  15. Windows is probably friendlier than apple. I mean they say you get a free iPod but you end up paying £5 in phone calls. In a way they are an evil money grabbing company. But be honest with you apple computers look nicer and are sleeker than most of the Windows computers. Not to mention I find them way easier to use than the Microsoft ones they have at school. Also they are less likely to get a virus than Windows ones are. Overall I think apple computers are better. I think Windows own too much for their own good. :) 8) :evil: :mrgreen:

    • You can also consider a Mac a Windows running computer now. BOOTCAMP… can Windows do that? Plus what you said about phone calls is not up to Apple… it’s the AT&T or what ever service you are using that prices phone calls.

    • Yeah, arzama, they can. It’s called the BIOS boot menu. The only reason that Macs can run Windows is because Microsoft plays nice with everyone who wants to buy and use their OS. Windows PCs can’t run OSX because Apple doesn’t return the favour.

    • “You can also consider a Mac a Windows running computer now. BOOTCAMP… can Windows do that? ”

      Like Arzama said, all PCs can dual boot OSs, (Actually much better than Macs).

      Even better you can run Mac OS X on the PC, (just against the Apple Liscence Agreement)

  16. i think microsoft are beter.Billy g came up with the computer idea then apple copied .Microsoft os computers are cheaper than those Apple computers.You get far more choice on PC (microsoft)than apple.VISTA IS MORE BETTER THAN OSX OR WHATEVER.

    OVERALL OUTCOME:MICROSOFT ARE BETTER

    • The typical Windoze user speaks! Need I say more?

    • i use both but windows is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better

    • Yeah but Microsoft copied the ACTUAL WINDOWS idea! HAHAHAHAH…. Ironic isn’t it? Macintosh was the first to have actual graphics.

    • “Yeah but Microsoft copied the ACTUAL WINDOWS idea! HAHAHAHAH…. Ironic isn’t it? Macintosh was the first to have actual graphics.”

      Yeah, but if it wasn’t for stupid people in Xerox, Xerox would of had the first GUI computer. They sold to Apple instead.

    • apple invented the computer but bill made a personal computer,so apple were first.

  17. as a warez downloader, I say I win!

    I can download OS X, WinXP, WinVista even the not released Windows 7, lol!

    Ok now Apple’s Mac vs PC for Windows

    I go for PC if it wasn’t for all the warez appz, mp3z, gamez and videoz that can be played on any player like MediaCoder, winamp, windows media player with all the codecs. hehe!

    the only thing I like Apple is the iMAC coz it’s handy(if I can just put all the PC parts at the back of the iMac screen, lol!)

    About the iTunes… hmmmp, that’s y I prefer my Nokia N95 than an iPhone or iPod, bleh~, coz I don’t need to convert it in itunes. also, Mp4/mp3 players now are bit same as iPod, d only thing is that it’s easy to import music rather than converting…

    So who win?

    d WareZ Site admin coz dey get traffic and d warez downloaders…lol

    in times like these…Recession…only thing that can save u for ur appz, games, moviez, mp3s needs are warez sites…lol!

  18. How can you judge apple products when you only use and ipod? thats ridiculous. and maybe apple wasnt the first to come out with touch screens and portable internet (like ipod touches) but its all about the advertising that apple did. Apple took the smart approach and went for the youth, and now microsoft is the copy cats by now trying to advertise to the youth (By putting 4 yr olds on comercials? come on thats a little young) there is a reason why people put apple on a pedestal and its because they did all the right advertising and overall their products are better.

    • The thing is, Microsoft is being too nice. Apple ran a smear campaign that had points that applied only to the most inept users. Every other commercial in the “Mac vs PC” campaign was about the BSOD, or viruses, or repair costs, or Vista (which actually wasn’t such a bad operating system once the service packs came out). Microsoft’s ad campaign was just, “I AM a PC.”

  19. Apple sucks…I’ve used them a lot and grown to hate them. They only use one software while 100s of computers use microsoft. They also have to come out with something new every week while microsoft is just there to help. Over all I find microsoft more user friendly. Microsofts are also more personable.More businesses use Microsoft too. The only businesses that use apple are artsy ones. GO MICROSOFT

    • Microsoft sucks arse. Every Mac can run Vista and other MS operating systems, so if you need to run a barbaric OS on a Mac, you have that option. Apple’s OS X is light years ahead of Vista in every measurable way.

    • “Microsoft sucks arse. Every Mac can run Vista and other MS operating systems, so if you need to run a barbaric OS on a Mac, you have that option. Apple’s OS X is light years ahead of Vista in every measurable way.”

      And PCs can run Mac OS X. OS X isn’t light years ahead. It’s not really ahead.

  20. Microsoft is always best. WHy does apple always target microsoft on their ads. They must know that microsoft is better and the only thing they can do is make fun of M$.

    • That is because Microsoft is begging to be made fun of! For example, would you like to hear a one-word joke? — “Zune”

      Thank you very much. I’ll be here all week.

    • Have you ever actually, you know, USED a Zune? Ever subscribed to Zune Pass? I pay $15/mo for unlimited downloads plus 10 non-DRM songs that I get to keep. Forever. I pay for pretty much a $10 album + $5 for 6 million songs. Is that as many as iTunes’ 8 million? No, but I’d likely never listen to them anyway for $1.29 a pop.

    • “That is because Microsoft is begging to be made fun of! For example, would you like to hear a one-word joke? — “Zune””

      Zune HD > iPod Touch

      The Zune is amazing, MS just really sucked at Marketing it.

    • i’ve got a Zune HD and i’ve also used iPod touch. i paid 130 € for Zune and i would pay 310€ for an iPod. Zune is a music player with wifi, radio, apps, mostly what you need if you want to waste your free time in a great way. iPod has tons of games, sound quality sucks, iTunes are not even close to Zune software and you have no radio. Microsoft wins here, but unlucky they got with the selling of the Zune. Too bad for such a great design.

  21. I don’t understand all the fuzz about who is better. Let the market decide. Both are good companies with fine products. I don’t think either company is worst or better; they just have different perspectives on computer and their applications. My verdict: they’re tied, no winners.

  22. I love how you wrote this not using Apple products. Brilliantly stupid on your part. I would take you more seriously if you used both.

  23. Álan Crístoffer

    Hey,
    Apple as a copycat:
    For more than a decade multitouch interfaces, similar to the iPhone’s, have been *demonstrated*. -> only Apple could make it perfect

    “So while Windows may cost more to buy than Mac OS X, I don’t think that you can pickup a new Macbook for $500 like you can do for a Windows computer.” -> I wanna see your windows computer do everything a Mac can do…

  24. it all comes down to your personal preference, i, prefer apple, and if you have the money, why not? MS is good for differrent things than apple is.

  25. Omar Upegui wrote:
    I don’t understand all the fuzz about who is better. Let the market decide. Both are good companies with fine products. I don’t think either company is worst or better; they just have different perspectives on computer and their applications. My verdict: they’re tied, no winners.

    I agree Omar… no winners here. I see both actually targeting different markets at this point, and so there isn’t really a way to do a fair comparison. Especially since Apple makes both the hardware and software for their computers.

  26. “I wanna see your windows computer do everything a Mac can do…”
    I wanna see a Mac that can right click.
    I just find Macs too awkward to use. My HP does everything faster and generally in a less frustrating way than Macs can.

    • I can show you! Just press control + click. Inefficient but you get used to it. Now you show me a windows that can’t get a virus (besides the one that is permanently turned off or never connects to the internet). And my mac can do things faster than your PC in a less amount of time. Heck, my mac can run your operating faster on its system. How is that for frustrating? Not being mean, but you really to get your facts right.

    • you can use two fingers too double click ;
      and with a mac mouse you can press ctrl click;
      or if your so needy of wanting your windows to look like a mac, change the preferences on the mac so you can right click . DUH !

    • “Now you show me a windows that can’t get a virus”

      Well, I, and several people I work with haven’t had malware for Windows for years, not since XP SP2.

      “And my mac can do things faster than your PC in a less amount of time.”

      Lets do a challange, my HP vs your Mac.

      “Heck, my mac can run your operating faster on its system”

      I bet I can run your OS on my HP faster. Though I don’t know your hardware, like you dont know mine.

    • You can also just push down with two fingers on newer ones. MACs are better if you know how to use them.

    • My windows never gets a virus because my F-secure detects everything. I spend a lot of time doing *pssst* illegal stuff on the internet and my Win never gets poisoned.

  27. i think its worth pointing out here that microsoft is considered more difficult to use as a os than the mac… they say if someone had never used either, he/she would take a few months longer to get round a ms based os…

    my point here is a lot of mac users look down on pc users whereas – maybe – this should be the other way round.

    i use the os x and xp and both are well written and intuitive, i’m not anti either, but in all honesty, something i have found again and again is pc users are far more open minded to using both, a majority of mac users are very anti ms and will try to convince the world they’re right… don’t know why, i’m also a big fan of linux and think if you want to talk the best that takes some beating, but i don’t walk around looking down on all the mac and pc users and trying to convince the world i’m right…

    finally, something that irritates me is apple constantly bitching about ms in their commericals, i saw one recently and they claimed the os x cant get viruses…. this is untrue and im surprised ms didnt hit back

  28. Windows is the best! So much more compatible! Apple is TOO EXCLUSIVE! I cant convert anything! And itunes is a waste. why raise the price to 1.29????? not a smart move at all!

    • Are you unaware that ALL of Apple’s current models can natively run ALL current Windows versions? Well, they can, and typically faster than dedicated PC machines. Now what?

    • Um… Maybe you should check out a brand new windows machine… IT HAS ITUNES!!!

    • riedmuna, zagnut isn’t talking about apps he is talking about an operating system like windows. Almost any computer can run itunes either you are a 4 year old who doesn’t no computers or mentally challenge.

    • “Are you unaware that ALL of Apple’s current models can natively run ALL current Windows versions? Well, they can, and typically faster than dedicated PC machines. Now what?”

      Do me a favor, take an PC with the same power as your mac, and test that.

    • when was the last time you checked that? Apple Lisa? EVERY MAC CAN RUN WINDOWS!!!!!!!!

      can windows run mac osx…

      NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. As somebody that grew up using apple computers from grade school through high school I have seen the large range of apples abilities. I recently purchased a MacBook pro 13″ and so far I am loving it. I haven’t had a single issue with it yet. I really love that I do not have to worry about having to have a ton of anti virus software slowing down my machine. It was also ready to use out of the box. The thing about Microsoft computers is that when you buy the laptop for $600.00 you still have to buy wireless cards Anita virus software and by the time your done you surpass the price of a mac. For my own computer I chose the apple route because of the user friendly/video/audio capabilities. Microsoft is more used than apple because it’s cheaper. You get what you pay foe in the computer world. I was personally sick of windows crashing Internet explored releasing the flood gates for viruses and always having to always enter control+alt+delete. The overall performance and reliability of my mac is better than any pc I’ve used. And to the guy that said bill gates invented it all, learn your history. Wikipedia is a good site. Bill gates made his money off of windows. And one more thing about windows is that from windows 95-XP hasn’t changed much. I hear windows 7 is suppose to be good but i will have to see It to believe it. Microsoft is gonna have to try really hard to win my business back. But in conclusion I think different applications require different computers. That’s why houses are designed with apple and Microsoft the majority of businesses. I like my mac and personally could care less if anybody doesn’t. I got what was right for me. If Microsoft is your thing then kudos.

    • not really… i dont want to pay $1600 for a dual core processor. ms anti virus’ are free, and i dont have to replace my comupter if it ever crashes. show me a mac that still lives after any kind of hardware problem.

  30. Software Developer

    Hi,

    I work for IBM.

    See people, doesn’t matter what you use as long as you are using it individually and not doing something special, for example on an average people perform general tasks like, internet surfing, using business applications, and might be some software as well, one can perform these tasks on (Windows, Linux, Solaris and on Mac) as well, but when we talk about advancement or development so Mac is useless, maximum industry use (Windows and Linux / Solaris) platform, even in today’s market only industry use Microsoft or Sun platform.

    Mac is nowhere in an industry, and as its not in industry so its nowhere in market, as its nowhere in market so we have the answer which one is better ?

    Mac is nowhere boss !!!

    If Mac is secure so why network industry use Linux as a server why they spent lot of money, why they provide higher packages to RHCE and RHCP, reason Mac is nowhere in networks, another good reason Mac use its own machine, however Linux and Windows are machine independent, another fair reason how many applications are available for Mac well one can count on fingers, now lets talk about Microsoft SORRY BOSS we can’t count on fingers, Mac looks good and is good inside home within a box.

    • actually, mac is in industry. alot of grafic designers, photographers, special effects, etc. use mac because of its high speeds, and graphic resolution. nobody i know uses IBM, sorry. and windows is a piece of crap. :)

    • I agree with Anonymous. Nobody uses windows to do graphic editing, it takes too long and freezes up too fast. And get this: A friend that works in a bank recently told me that they are switching the security to a mac operated system. Not sure exactly how or what they did but he told me that they are making it mandatory for emergency guard (which is what he is) to learn how to disable false alarms and run security checks all on a mac. Why? Because they are faster. Another reason? Criminals can not hack them or upload a virus on the computer which is, I am assuming, how most criminals get inside a computer in the first place. So sorry mate, your facts are wrong. :(

    • Window is better then mac, learn to read MAC IS NOWHERE IN AN INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • sorry, me, but you just told… oh, i dunno, the worlds… maybe third… second? No, #1 worst and least accurate lie ever

    • I own a PC cause that was all I ever used for my whole life. I’ve worked on macs a little, they thrive in the art and design market, whereas PCs thrive in businesses. its like choosing between PlayStation or Xbox, or dodge and Chevy, or Pepsi and Coke, or McDonald’s and Burger King, etc. they all have pros and cons. I would own a mac AND a PC cause they both seem cool.(I don’t own a mac cause they’re an arm & a leg, a con for apple)

  31. Microsoft rocks and apples sucks THAT’S IT. APPLES ARE SO OVERRATED AND PEICES OF CRAP.

    thank you come again

  32. i agree with you all the way

  33. I would highly suggest proofreading your work. It will make you sound more educated. Thank you. Good Day!!

  34. microsoft is better than apple,or maybe not…

  35. I have used Windows and I have used PC (Operating system analysis only). Here is my verdict, as a teenager:

    PRO’s:
    - NO VIRUSES! I had to write this in all caps because viruses was such a major deal for me. Every 6 months my PC would crash because of some or other virus/malware/etc problem. I don’t know what it was but I know I spent tons of money trying to fix it. Even when I took it to Geek Squad (Best Buy), it still had problems emerging every week.I went through 4 laptops in three years and crashed them all. Had I saved my 3-4 grands on buying and repairs, I would’ve had three macs by now. All the crashing was because, I love to download things. I still do. I download pretty much anything that looks cool: songs, movies, pirated movies, etc. And end result:Blue Screen of Death. :( I was so frustrated, I asked my mother to buy me a Macbook. Two years and still going just like new, which leads me to my next point.
    - Durability: I have spilled soup on my Macbook and accidentally left it outside in the cold (in my car) and had dew on it the next morning. I may just be lucky, but my Mac still works like new. And my mac has never crashed, never froze, never slowed, never gotten stuck for more than a couple of minutes (when opening large files). I am a pleased customer. Whereas, with a PC, I remember accidentally dropping my computer and immediately there were horizontal lines on the display. Ruined the display entirely. I know this is not a very accurate durability comparision since its two different scenarios, but still, just to point out the incidents.

    - Inteface: I absolutely love how easy it is to use a mac. And even now, new features keep popping up that I previously didn’t know about! I am absolutely in love with using two fingers to scroll and spotlight. I love how accurate spotlight is. I can type anything I vaguely know about a file I am looking for, 99% of the time spotlight lists it up. Love it! It even lists the webpages that start with my search query that I visited in the past! I didn’t even read the manual before I started using a mac. It’s so easy! The fonts, the graphics, the HD screen, everything is super cool, durable, and made to last. I also love the “sticky note” feature. And one absolute biggest + in my opinion is how fast the computer is! I play many games and they never “freeze” or taking forever loading. That was my BIGGEST problem when playing games online with a PC. It would take forever to load games, if I installed tons of games with large memory. For some reason, I’ve installed more games on my mac than a mac and it has less memory, yet it is never slow to open my games. I am pretty impatient when it comes to waiting for something to load (which is why I have cable internet lol), but yeah, I love not having to wait for my games to load on a Mac.

    Cons:
    Left Click: It was a big issue when I first purchased a mac. It still kinda is and definitely takes point away from a MAC. PC, you win on this one and one more.

    Games: I pointed out earlier I love games. However, I am not huge on paying for most of them. I own plenty of paid games, but some games, I like to try out full length for free without having to pay, and just watching ads in between the game which generates revenue. I know yahoo does that (don’t know if still does?), but I was sooo disappointed that there aren’t any sites that do that for a mac game. :( Very very very big – on mac’s side… I know its an issue with the computer itself, but it comes with using it.

    Heating Issues: As known by all, apple products tend to heat up fast. I am worried sometimes when my computer’s fan remains turned on for more than 10 minutes, so I shut the screen down and let it cool. Maybe its just paranoia for me, since it hasn’t ever shown signs of damage but just stating that it does tend to make me nervous. And this is when I work with it on a table so all the vents are exposed.

    Compatibility: Even though there are products that are compatible with Macs now more than ever, Windows is still preferred choice. I rarely had problems with that so its not an issue for me but may be for some especially for people, who use it for business purposes which requires certain software.

    Price and Components: I’ve only had this problem recently. I just think things on Apple’s are overpriced. From buying accessory products for Macs to purchasing recently introduced iLife (which is free on new computers :( is a huge turn off. On the plus side OS X Leopard upgrade only cost $30, not bad. But there should be a further incentive to loyal customers. I am disappointed that I can’t use Face Recognition tech on my iphoto without paying $79 to get iLife which comes with features I won’t ever use. Not cool. I should be able to just install a newer version of iPhoto and get the new features for free. Never had that problem with Windows! Also, Quicktime sucks. It doesn’t let you do half the things Windows player did even after paying for it, which is ridiculous! because I never had to pay to use a player in Windows. Major – points.

    Verdict: Macs win. Although I miss my free games, and my left click button, the joy of not worrying about viruses and malwares and the money I save on buying several different anti-virus software is just too huge of a + point. It overshadows and completely engulfs the point that macs lack left click and couple of other cool things. I have redeemed the $1,500 I spent on my mac in just two years :) and my macbook is still going strong just like the first day I bought it. No windows computer can even touch that! Even a barely used Windows computer doesn’t run as smoothly as my two year old overused macbook does. :) Honest opinion.

    • You prablay had a crap computer like a pentim 3 or an atom

    • Your analysis is wrong. You are criticizing the hardware. Microsoft does not own the hardware your windows run on. It’s up to you if you want to your windows on a $300 cheap chinese import or a $700 IBM machine. The performance and stability of the OS is greatly affected by the type of hardware you have.

      I am administering a small business network. I have 4 desktop Mac minis which our physicians use and 9 windows XP desktops that I and the medical staff use. I have RH linux running VOIP and a web server. I also have 2 windows 2008 machines which are our main production servers running the EMR, a file server and an e-mail system. Our printer system is on a canon print server appliance.

      I use macs on our doctors machines because they are always busy and they go online a lot. I find it difficult to do maintenance on their machines. Macs stability and less vulnerability to viruses are good qualities but they also cost $1000 each. ouch! By using Macs, my budget for software and hardware has tripled.

      The rest of the staff uses windows XP. Our main servers had to be windows because they run the EMR software we needed. Most of our XP machines are not connected to the internet. If the staff needs to go online, there are 2 XP machines on a separate network for internet use. I used windows for It’s compatibility with our network hardware, backup systems and the availability of software.

      My lunix runs the IP Phone system and a web server. Linux is great. its very cheap and stable. I would go without rebooting my linux for months and still performs perfectly. It’s quite hard to administer at the start but once you get it running you just leave it and it runs without problems. Services that don’t need crucial data to be saved or backup-ed would be ideal for linux.

      My network runs smoothly with zero downtime. I never get viruses except for the 2 XP machines used for browsing which are not connected to our main network.

      You see all 3 opt systems, Windows, Mac and Linux have their uses.

    • If you got viruses, it’s your own damn fault for looking up donkey pr0n. Just sayin’.

    • Don’t you miss your games? Period?

  36. “I wanna see your windows computer do everything a Mac can do…”
    I wanna see a Mac that can right click.
    I just find Macs too awkward to use. My HP does everything faster and generally in a less frustrating way than Macs can.

    I will show you!

  37. Apple is the best…microsoft is really worst..worser than google perhaps…and windows is the worst OS ever which crashes and slows down…and its the highest selling OS on the planet…i dont get this….

    MAC OS X neva gets slow down..it ll be same throuh out….no matter waht you do….you dont need anti Virus,malware,spyware anyhitng,…..

    And i say again Once you purchase macbook YOU LL ALWAYS LOVE MAC….never feel like jumping to Windows..!!

    SORRY MICRSOFT

  38. The things that linux geeks hate about microsoft are the same things apple is more guilty of doing. But they don’t attack apple because they don’t realize this. microsoft has 90% marketshare of desktops and servers. Being number 1 makes them the primary target from criticism and also hackers.

    linux – least proprietary
    microsoft – proprietary
    apple – very proprietary

    • Well said Bill Jobs. That basically sums up the argument between MAC OS X and Windows. Windows is better because 90% of the market uses it, hackers know that so they target and exploit the wider user base with trojans and viruses. Small market MAC OS X is of no interest to them. Microsoft is less proprietary therefore is better than apple.

    • true true

  39. Suggestion:

    If you want to use an Apple product, go ahead.
    If, on the other hand, you happen to use a Microsoft product, go ahead!

    Who cares, and what does it matter to anyone outside of those who are actually in a position to profit from it?

    This thread has already been done countless times on other sites and again, accomplished exactly nothing.

  40. Mac is good looking, but can you search 20 things at one time on a Mac? Can you do research, type a paper and goof off at the same on a Mac? I think not

  41. GO mac get more users = more virus and less for windows users

    • the average people in 100 that have a windows in 97 and only 3 out of 100 have a mac. there is nothing wrong with them as i have one my self but apple computers haven’t become the preferable trend

  42. I think that both apple and Microsoft are very good companies. But both have their problems. Some people get very confused when their computer doesn’t work and they blame Microsoft for the downfall of their computer, and sometimes they might say that apple is better. That not true if something happens to your computer most of the time it is THE BRAND of the computer not the OS. And for the people out there who say Windows OS gets viruses…. Have you people really never heard of Virus protection software? The only reason you don’t need it for your Mac is because it comes with it on there. Last thing is really think hard about this If I were to make a viruses why would I make one for Macs that only take up 10% of the computer market vs. Windows that makes up 80% Just be careful about saying no viruses on the Macs cause it will bite you in the ass sooner or later.

  43. I have a shitty computer (pc) that I need to take apart in order for it to work. But thats not all, I have to use a fan right under the laptop (not one of those small usb fans either), I need a real fan so it wont turn off on me. It stil overheats even if the fan is on the highest setting but at least it works. I have Intel Pentium and it sucks balls since I cant play any “real” games and by real I mean games that were made in 2010 or need a fast machine to play. I havent used an apple computer yet but hearing from my cousin it is the boom digity. So what I’m trying to say from this is that it depends on your previous experience with the type of machine to actually have an opinion on which of the two are better

    • take better care of your not so shitty comp and maybe it will last longer. oh and about the gaming. buy an alien ware they are f@%*&$^ awesome for gaming as ling as you dont pull them apart.

    • To be honest, apple is not as breakable. pc’s get smashed easily. this little tray ejected from my toshiba. i dont know why it just did

  44. Apple is the best and don’t bag it you can’t hack a Mac and windows is full of virus
    And other stuff like that if you don’t like Mac than you haven’t lived the dream yet. Windows is good but only windows 7 and vista kk?

    • vista and 7 are good but have you ever seen a person with mac playing a game. You can crash a mac and i have designed a virus for it my self by accident.

  45. This is wrong fighting over Microsoft and apple it’s clear that they are both great but I’d prefer apple!

    • well that depends what work you want to do. Gaming=alienware. Work=Mac. Both work and gaming=windows. i’m wiriting this from my winac (windows+mac) i made it my self and its blody fast.

  46. In researching a paper for introduction to business, we were given Apple for our case study. Apple is quite slick, but to get the most bang for my buck I have to stay with MicroSoft until I am making bigger $ to afford an Apple. Then, I am still not quite convinced that the bells and whistles Apple offers is still worth the $ one must shell out. I have no problem keeping the updates ‘up to date’ and I have only had one crash with Microsoft since purchasing my first PC in 1983. The access to software capabilities is what makes MicroSoft #1 with most consumers. I have yet to work for a company that utilizes Apple. Of course I do not live on the East Coast or the West Coast. We in the Heartland are probably a few years in catching up with the techno gadgits from silicon valley. However, I do have an IPhone, that I am quite taken with. But then again, Microsoft is there too.
    All large corporations have their bully stories. Apple, Microsoft, Hewlett Packard, Kodak, they all can be quite intimidating. Heck, just look at good ol grand pa Sam Walton’s bunch in our 21st Century. Talking about, bullies, this corporation takes #1 spot. Wal-mart could teach how to be a bully.
    So, for now I will stick with Microsoft and live in my land of Oz.

  47. Hey, Apple Fanboys, what’s with you saying PCs get viruses every other second?
    Do you get your information from Apple’s site?
    As long as you have COMMON SENSE and/or a free AntiVirus you will be FINE!
    It’s only the fucking idiots that get the viruses because they do not use common sense or use no antivirus at all.

    I’m not exactly anti-apple, however, Apple didn’t even make their whole OS from scratch, they based it off of Linux.

    Macs are practically PCs these days, the only difference is the operating system, and the reason nobody bothers to make a virus for OSX is that it’s not worth it at all, since there’s not a huge amount of people who use Macintosh Computers.

  48. Terrible article and stupid points, even if I agree with it.

    • i have 2 Mac’s and 4 windows. all the mac products and a windows phone. i personally think mac is good but frankly windows is better. my windows can get 16 core processors in it and so i have 16 i7′s. in a mac, no chance. pc can be modified drastically and windows cannot. mac has simply copied everything of their ipod from zen. also the right clicking thing in mac is really annoying while in an windows you just have to well… right click. my shares in mac have always been a disappointing because i had a share of $100,000 and now i only have $87000. in windows my shares went from $400000 to 1,560,000. Mictosoft for the win.

  49. my opinion is apple is better because no matte which version of windows, it still isnt as reliable as mac and the ipods are still more poular.btw, this is outdated

  50. Here’s the bottom line fellas. I don’t care which company you prefer support, but apple and microsoft operating systems do the same thing, they help you operate your computer. Everything that can be done on a mac can be done on windows (% vise versa). A mac can run windows, and a pc CAN run mac OS. There is no difference. It just comes down to how much you want to pay for your hardware.
    –If you want a shiny, sleek, “hip”, overpriced design, then go buy a mac.

    –If you want to pay a reasonable price for a less shiny, less sleek, less “hip” machine, then go with microsoft.

    personally, i prefer to stay away from apple. PC’s are cheaper, and if you actually know how to use a computer, they work just fine. The only reason why pc’s get viruses and macs don’t is because nobody makes viruses for macs (yet). Oh yeah, ALL operating systems can get viruses, so whoever says macs CAN’T get viruses is lying to your face.

  51. MY opinion is that Macs are better because I like the design and interface and Photobooth …although windows 7 is Ok but the sad thing about Mac is that it can’t print word documents. And I like Windows 7 because of it’s gadgets and free games. I practically like both of them the same.

  52. Microsoft sells software, not hardware. 90% of the market that they have is in software. Apple develops software and hardware the complete computer experience. So you can not compare Apple hardware with Microsoft, just software.If your PC malfunctions in software and hardware, you will either have to contact Microsoft for the software issues and the manufacturer of the PC for the hardware. If your Apple machine fails you have one company to handle your software and hardware problems. Microsoft Windows 7 has been a major improvement for them since Windows Vista. Overall if you google Mac OS X performance benchmarks against Windows 7 benchmarks u will clearly see Apple OS X wins hands down. Mac OS X is a Unix based system, more stability, less vulernable to getting viruses, the integrated software in OS X has been far superior to using Windows 7 integrated software. Learn the software in both Windows and OS X and you we see the difference. Apple market shares are steadily increasing and investors are seeing this. How many PC owners have at least owned or have a iPhone, iPod, have iTunes software, or even a Mac?

  53. What ever you like. Get a Mac if you want or a pc. Pc are better for gaming but mac is better for graphic designing and art. So just end it it’s a tie.

  54. apple is way!!!!! better i have had mine for months and still no problems

  55. I have a imac now had a hp and it was crap its takes forever to start up and when surfing it slow slow slow my imac is lighting fast and does any thing faster than a PC i am now a mac fan and will never go back.

  56. For many years now for us in South Africa, Apple was far too expensive. But the prices are now very competitive. I am just sad that I’ve wasted so much money and time on endless and exhausting Microsoft problems, when I could have had the more user friendly Apple. The moment I can afford it I’ll ditch everything Microsoft and go for an Apple (Mac)! No matter what anybody else will try to tell me. At least I’ll know that every time I switch on it will work.

  57. toowearyforoutrage

    The comparison of IE and iTunes or Safari is imperfect.

    Neither program is inextractable from the OS like IE. If a virus exploits a weakness in IE, it may mean compromise of the entire computer. If you wish to get rid of that risk, you CAN’T.

    Even if Safari and iTunes were risky or you didn’t like them, you can uninstall both. Software Updates can be configure to ignore Safari and iTunes downloads.

    You could even install iTunes to update your iDevice and then uninstall it again the moment you were finished. Complaining about that is akin to complaining about being forced to load a driver for a new device.

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