Comments on: Is Copying Music You Own Stealing? http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/ Technology News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:42:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ashley http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-121834 Ashley Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:17:53 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-121834 Hey Sean, thanks for pointing that out. While we sift through a lot of news in a days time looking for newsworthy content, it's impossible to catch it all. That's why tips to the editors are so helpful. If you come across something like this again that you think is newsworthy, feel free to send an email our way using the "contact" button above. :) Hey Sean, thanks for pointing that out. While we sift through a lot of news in a days time looking for newsworthy content, it’s impossible to catch it all. That’s why tips to the editors are so helpful. If you come across something like this again that you think is newsworthy, feel free to send an email our way using the “contact” button above. :)

]]> By: Sean http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-121748 Sean Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:24:11 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-121748 http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/2358/125/ You may be interested to discover that the Canadian Government has recently undertaken a massive survey to determine the effect of P2P downloading on music sales and the results may come as a surprise (though not if you already use P2P services for your own music appreciation). The nutshell version - P2P actually results in an increase in music sales according to this new canadian survey. I am an RSS subscriber to Cybernotes, and I am dismayed that your usual stellar coverage has made no mention of this new survey over the past week. [michaelgeist.ca]

You may be interested to discover that the Canadian Government has recently undertaken a massive survey to determine the effect of P2P downloading on music sales and the results may come as a surprise (though not if you already use P2P services for your own music appreciation). The nutshell version – P2P actually results in an increase in music sales according to this new canadian survey.

I am an RSS subscriber to Cybernotes, and I am dismayed that your usual stellar coverage has made no mention of this new survey over the past week.

]]> By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-117081 Ryan Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:27:22 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-117081 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-116977" rel="nofollow">Change wrote:</a><blockquote>When you buy a CD in the store, you also pay for the license, not just for the media itself. So when the CD breaks and you haven’t made a copy (because that’s what they consider “stealing”), you still have the license. Shouldn’t we consider it “stealing” then too when we go back to say Sony to request a new, working CD for the price of producing the media (i.e., without paying for the license again) and then hear Sony tell us “Sure, here’s a new CD, but the costs to replace your broken one are as high as buying one incl. license costs!”…</blockquote></div> That's actually a really good way of putting it. It would actually be nice if they offered some sort of replacement program for CD's at the cost of production, but then you would have to have some sort of proof that you owned it. <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117005" rel="nofollow">Kevin J wrote:</a><blockquote>What they suggest is not only ridiculous, but greedy. I can only hope that nobody believes them.</blockquote></div> I'm sure every record company is going to listen to them unfortunately, but it's gotta be the fans who force them to see this as ridiculous. <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117036" rel="nofollow">The Guru wrote:</a><blockquote>They think we are too dumb to notice that the price is slowly going up, but consumers are not dumb and are going to catch on as to what is happening. They will look for other ‘ways’ to get their music.</blockquote></div> Consumers are definitely aware of that happening, and I remember all of the complaints I heard while working at Target a few years back. It was already happening then and it continues to get worse. Change wrote:
When you buy a CD in the store, you also pay for the license, not just for the media itself. So when the CD breaks and you haven’t made a copy (because that’s what they consider “stealing”), you still have the license. Shouldn’t we consider it “stealing” then too when we go back to say Sony to request a new, working CD for the price of producing the media (i.e., without paying for the license again) and then hear Sony tell us “Sure, here’s a new CD, but the costs to replace your broken one are as high as buying one incl. license costs!”…

That’s actually a really good way of putting it. It would actually be nice if they offered some sort of replacement program for CD’s at the cost of production, but then you would have to have some sort of proof that you owned it.

Kevin J wrote:
What they suggest is not only ridiculous, but greedy. I can only hope that nobody believes them.

I’m sure every record company is going to listen to them unfortunately, but it’s gotta be the fans who force them to see this as ridiculous.

The Guru wrote:
They think we are too dumb to notice that the price is slowly going up, but consumers are not dumb and are going to catch on as to what is happening. They will look for other ‘ways’ to get their music.

Consumers are definitely aware of that happening, and I remember all of the complaints I heard while working at Target a few years back. It was already happening then and it continues to get worse.

]]> By: The Guru http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-117036 The Guru Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:35:22 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-117036 This is all a bunch of Toro Caca...all these legal battles these labels get into just cost us the consumer more. Especially in cases where they don't win or it is thrown out of court (like these would if they try to take legal action on their definition of 'stealing'). They need to re-coop the legal costs somehow...which means increase the price of a CD a couple bucks every couple months. They think we are too dumb to notice that the price is slowly going up, but consumers are not dumb and are going to catch on as to what is happening. They will look for other 'ways' to get their music. This is all a bunch of Toro Caca…all these legal battles these labels get into just cost us the consumer more. Especially in cases where they don’t win or it is thrown out of court (like these would if they try to take legal action on their definition of ’stealing’). They need to re-coop the legal costs somehow…which means increase the price of a CD a couple bucks every couple months. They think we are too dumb to notice that the price is slowly going up, but consumers are not dumb and are going to catch on as to what is happening. They will look for other ‘ways’ to get their music.

]]> By: Kevin J http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-117005 Kevin J Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:37:16 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-117005 My feelings on the matter? If a person pays for a song, they should have free non-commercial use of that song without additional charges. What they suggest is not only ridiculous, but greedy. I can only hope that nobody believes them. My feelings on the matter? If a person pays for a song, they should have free non-commercial use of that song without additional charges.

What they suggest is not only ridiculous, but greedy. I can only hope that nobody believes them.

]]> By: ORiN http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-116995 ORiN Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:05:06 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-116995 This Jennifer Pariser is utterly bullshit with her definition of stealing. She should check up the dictionary instead of rattling off with such comments. If I don't own the song that I bought, what's the point of me buying it then? I might as well download it on the Internet. This Jennifer Pariser is utterly bullshit with her definition of stealing. She should check up the dictionary instead of rattling off with such comments. If I don’t own the song that I bought, what’s the point of me buying it then? I might as well download it on the Internet.

]]> By: Tinhed http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-116994 Tinhed Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:03:06 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-116994 Let me add another word which is more apt. " Preposterous" Let me add another word which is more apt. ” Preposterous”

]]> By: And I’m Still Organizing My Music « Smart Workaholic http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-116988 And I’m Still Organizing My Music « Smart Workaholic Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:48:37 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-116988 [...] 10/4  Update : CyberNet posted an interesting article yesterday that I thought I would share: Is Copying Music You Own Stealing? [...] [...] 10/4  Update : CyberNet posted an interesting article yesterday that I thought I would share: Is Copying Music You Own Stealing? [...]

]]> By: Change http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-116977 Change Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:00:38 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-116977 When you buy a CD in the store, you also pay for the license, not just for the media itself. So when the CD breaks and you haven't made a copy (because that's what they consider "stealing"), you still have the license. Shouldn't we consider it "stealing" then too when we go back to say Sony to request a new, working CD for the price of producing the media (i.e., without paying for the license again) and then hear Sony tell us "Sure, here's a new CD, but the costs to replace your broken one are as high as buying one incl. license costs!"... As netster007x said: "They threaten those who do bad, while they punish those who do good." As long as this is true, the music industry will never get the consumers to support their case. When you buy a CD in the store, you also pay for the license, not just for the media itself. So when the CD breaks and you haven’t made a copy (because that’s what they consider “stealing”), you still have the license. Shouldn’t we consider it “stealing” then too when we go back to say Sony to request a new, working CD for the price of producing the media (i.e., without paying for the license again) and then hear Sony tell us “Sure, here’s a new CD, but the costs to replace your broken one are as high as buying one incl. license costs!”…

As netster007x said: “They threaten those who do bad, while they punish those who do good.” As long as this is true, the music industry will never get the consumers to support their case.

]]> By: Ashley http://cybernetnews.com/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/comment-page-1/#comment-116948 Ashley Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:19:25 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/10/03/is-copying-music-you-own-stealing/#comment-116948 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-116925" rel="nofollow">Amak wrote:</a><blockquote>I refuse to buy 2 cds just to have one as a backup. According to dictionary.com: Steal; to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force. The cd is our property, so we have a right to make a backup copy of it. Sony needs to go back the Elementary school…</blockquote></div> If Sony were in Elementary School, the teacher would tell them to quit tattling for something so stupid. :) Amak wrote:
I refuse to buy 2 cds just to have one as a backup. According to dictionary.com:

Steal; to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force.

The cd is our property, so we have a right to make a backup copy of it. Sony needs to go back the Elementary school…

If Sony were in Elementary School, the teacher would tell them to quit tattling for something so stupid. :)

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