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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:)I think Kubuntu &amp; Ubuntu are great OSs especially since they are open source. But some people, I have noticed dont really care for them.
Becouse they had problems with the sound card etc.
But you should remember that these are OPEN source &amp; dont have all the great stuff like WinVista or Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I think Kubuntu &amp; Ubuntu are great OSs especially since they are open source. But some people, I have noticed dont really care for them.<br />
Becouse they had problems with the sound card etc.<br />
But you should remember that these are OPEN source &amp; dont have all the great stuff like WinVista or Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/kubuntu-710-review-screenshots/comment-page-1/#comment-119007</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-118993&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;onlineapps wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m really mad at Gutsy.  Why?  Kubuntu 7.10 is basically a catchup to the Gnome Ubuntu 7.04.  There was already a Restricted Driver Manager in Gnome Feisty and GDebi was around since… how long?

Seriously, I’m considering switching to MEPIS. It’s basically the same, but more up to date.  I’d do SuSE, but I hate RPMs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I agree with you there. I haven&#039;t tried out MEPIS, but openSUSE is really nice. If you do decide to switch to MEPIS I&#039;d be interested in hearing what you think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-118993" rel="nofollow">onlineapps wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I’m really mad at Gutsy.  Why?  Kubuntu 7.10 is basically a catchup to the Gnome Ubuntu 7.04.  There was already a Restricted Driver Manager in Gnome Feisty and GDebi was around since… how long?</p>
<p>Seriously, I’m considering switching to MEPIS. It’s basically the same, but more up to date.  I’d do SuSE, but I hate RPMs.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I agree with you there. I haven&#8217;t tried out MEPIS, but openSUSE is really nice. If you do decide to switch to MEPIS I&#8217;d be interested in hearing what you think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: onlineapps</title>
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		<dc:creator>onlineapps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really mad at Gutsy.  Why?  Kubuntu 7.10 is basically a catchup to the Gnome Ubuntu 7.04.  There was already a Restricted Driver Manager in Gnome Feisty and GDebi was around since... how long?

Seriously, I&#039;m considering switching to MEPIS. It&#039;s basically the same, but more up to date.  I&#039;d do SuSE, but I hate RPMs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really mad at Gutsy.  Why?  Kubuntu 7.10 is basically a catchup to the Gnome Ubuntu 7.04.  There was already a Restricted Driver Manager in Gnome Feisty and GDebi was around since&#8230; how long?</p>
<p>Seriously, I&#8217;m considering switching to MEPIS. It&#8217;s basically the same, but more up to date.  I&#8217;d do SuSE, but I hate RPMs.</p>
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		<title>By: KDE ?? ???? ? &#171; Navid Kashani&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>KDE ?? ???? ? &#171; Navid Kashani&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ???? ??????? ?? ??? ????? ????? ?? ???. ???? ???? ? ???. ??? ??? ????? ??? ?? ???? Kubuntu ??? ?? ?? ???? ?????? KDE ??????? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-118853&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rob wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;NTFS read/write support has been in Kubuntu since Feisty (7.04)  ;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
It hasn&#039;t been in Ubuntu until now, which is what I was saying in the opening paragraph.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-118853" rel="nofollow">Rob wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>NTFS read/write support has been in Kubuntu since Feisty (7.04)  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>It hasn&#8217;t been in Ubuntu until now, which is what I was saying in the opening paragraph.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NTFS read/write support has been in Kubuntu since Feisty (7.04)  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NTFS read/write support has been in Kubuntu since Feisty (7.04)  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-118755&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The How-To Geek wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;They really didn’t include a lot of new features for us kubuntu users. I’m looking forward to KDE4, though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
KDE 4 does look pretty nice, but it&#039;s a shame it couldn&#039;t get out before the release of 7.10 because that would have made this release all that more memorable.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-118764&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tinhed wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW is there a chance you could have a look at xubuntu, now that you have covered both ubuntu and kubuntu. I have a slightly older system and i tried the xubuntu tribe5 distribution and i was really impressed by the speed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I&#039;ve never actually used that believe it or not. That&#039;s a great idea though...I&#039;ll give it a shot probably next week.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-118772&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seth Brundle wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I have done a hardware and two vm installs of Gutsy, and one hardware upgrade.
It is better, but didnt fix any of my personal major install issues:
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1) Unfortunately there is still problems with Nvidia and ATI graphics cards. I&#039;ve had similar experiences.

2) Haven&#039;t had that issue before, but definitely sounds like something tha tneeds to be fixed.

3) My Live CD and my installation detected both of my monitors okay. It was still a pain trying to get them both to the correct resolution though.

4) My refresh rate is normally a little off as well, and it takes some configuration. This, along with the unrecognized widescreen resolution, are two things that they need to have a high priority for. It&#039;s the first thing people notice when installing the operating system, and can be a big turn off.

5) I only have built-in sound cards so I&#039;ve never really had any issues with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-118755" rel="nofollow">The How-To Geek wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>They really didn’t include a lot of new features for us kubuntu users. I’m looking forward to KDE4, though.</p></blockquote>
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<p>KDE 4 does look pretty nice, but it&#8217;s a shame it couldn&#8217;t get out before the release of 7.10 because that would have made this release all that more memorable.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-118764" rel="nofollow">Tinhed wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>BTW is there a chance you could have a look at xubuntu, now that you have covered both ubuntu and kubuntu. I have a slightly older system and i tried the xubuntu tribe5 distribution and i was really impressed by the speed.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I&#8217;ve never actually used that believe it or not. That&#8217;s a great idea though&#8230;I&#8217;ll give it a shot probably next week.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-118772" rel="nofollow">Seth Brundle wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I have done a hardware and two vm installs of Gutsy, and one hardware upgrade.<br />
It is better, but didnt fix any of my personal major install issues:
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<p>1) Unfortunately there is still problems with Nvidia and ATI graphics cards. I&#8217;ve had similar experiences.</p>
<p>2) Haven&#8217;t had that issue before, but definitely sounds like something tha tneeds to be fixed.</p>
<p>3) My Live CD and my installation detected both of my monitors okay. It was still a pain trying to get them both to the correct resolution though.</p>
<p>4) My refresh rate is normally a little off as well, and it takes some configuration. This, along with the unrecognized widescreen resolution, are two things that they need to have a high priority for. It&#8217;s the first thing people notice when installing the operating system, and can be a big turn off.</p>
<p>5) I only have built-in sound cards so I&#8217;ve never really had any issues with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Brundle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Brundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have done a hardware and two vm installs of Gutsy, and one hardware upgrade.
It is better, but didnt fix any of my personal major install issues:

1. The LiveCD will blackscreen after the menu on a GeForce 8800 video card, even with &#039;safe graphics&#039; - you need to edit the boot to remove &#039;quiet&#039; and &#039;splash&#039;, then after installation you have to edit the grub menu as well. I cannot believe they havent fixed this - this was a known Feisty issue.

2. I got an unrelated and dreaded &#039;GRUB ERROR 22&#039; - evidentially Ubuntu chose my external USB device as the grub install target, without asking - this took an hour of trial and error. I would actually love to see Ubuntu expose its Grub guesswork on install and ask user (like Suse) to verify because this part of the install is *super-critical*, and Ubuntu gets it wrong often. This type of error is completely unfixable in the GUI and very advanced command line stuff.

It is really annoying that Ubuntu reccommends people with grub errors use supergrub (which is NOT user friendly) to fix them - the LiveCD should have built-in grub repair tools like Suse.

3. Although the live CD detected both of my monitors, the installation did not (?!). I could only achieve proper dual monitor config with nvidia-settings, which although much better then Ubuntus tool still takes a lot of trial and error.

4. On both of the hardware installs the incorrect refresh rate was selected and the screen was slightly blurred. Although I was able to identify and fix the problem a normal user might not know what was wrong.

5. 3 years later, still no support for the most popular aftermarket audio card on the market - the Creative X-Fi, wont even beep. (Creative launched a 64-bit beta driver, which no on I know of has been able to get to work - now they are saying Q1 of &#039;08 )

I&#039;m not saying its Ubuntus fault, but its a massive Linux issue nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have done a hardware and two vm installs of Gutsy, and one hardware upgrade.<br />
It is better, but didnt fix any of my personal major install issues:</p>
<p>1. The LiveCD will blackscreen after the menu on a GeForce 8800 video card, even with &#8217;safe graphics&#8217; &#8211; you need to edit the boot to remove &#8216;quiet&#8217; and &#8217;splash&#8217;, then after installation you have to edit the grub menu as well. I cannot believe they havent fixed this &#8211; this was a known Feisty issue.</p>
<p>2. I got an unrelated and dreaded &#8216;GRUB ERROR 22&#8242; &#8211; evidentially Ubuntu chose my external USB device as the grub install target, without asking &#8211; this took an hour of trial and error. I would actually love to see Ubuntu expose its Grub guesswork on install and ask user (like Suse) to verify because this part of the install is *super-critical*, and Ubuntu gets it wrong often. This type of error is completely unfixable in the GUI and very advanced command line stuff.</p>
<p>It is really annoying that Ubuntu reccommends people with grub errors use supergrub (which is NOT user friendly) to fix them &#8211; the LiveCD should have built-in grub repair tools like Suse.</p>
<p>3. Although the live CD detected both of my monitors, the installation did not (?!). I could only achieve proper dual monitor config with nvidia-settings, which although much better then Ubuntus tool still takes a lot of trial and error.</p>
<p>4. On both of the hardware installs the incorrect refresh rate was selected and the screen was slightly blurred. Although I was able to identify and fix the problem a normal user might not know what was wrong.</p>
<p>5. 3 years later, still no support for the most popular aftermarket audio card on the market &#8211; the Creative X-Fi, wont even beep. (Creative launched a 64-bit beta driver, which no on I know of has been able to get to work &#8211; now they are saying Q1 of &#8216;08 )</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying its Ubuntus fault, but its a massive Linux issue nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinhed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tinhed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-118755&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The How-To Geek wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;They really didn’t include a lot of new features for us kubuntu users. I’m looking forward to KDE4, though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

True , iam a bit disappointed that kde4 did not make it into this release. And comparing the changelog of ubuntu to that of kubuntu, i would say that ubuntu has had much more of a leap. Yea ryan, compiz is one heck of a new addition. Just like you i prefer kde over gnome or xfce but i think with this release i would mover to  ubuntu from my present kubuntu 7.04 installation.

BTW is there a chance you could have a look at xubuntu, now that you have covered both ubuntu and kubuntu. I have a slightly older system and i tried the xubuntu tribe5 distribution and i was really impressed by the speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-118755" rel="nofollow">The How-To Geek wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>They really didn’t include a lot of new features for us kubuntu users. I’m looking forward to KDE4, though.</p></blockquote>
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<p>True , iam a bit disappointed that kde4 did not make it into this release. And comparing the changelog of ubuntu to that of kubuntu, i would say that ubuntu has had much more of a leap. Yea ryan, compiz is one heck of a new addition. Just like you i prefer kde over gnome or xfce but i think with this release i would mover to  ubuntu from my present kubuntu 7.04 installation.</p>
<p>BTW is there a chance you could have a look at xubuntu, now that you have covered both ubuntu and kubuntu. I have a slightly older system and i tried the xubuntu tribe5 distribution and i was really impressed by the speed.</p>
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		<title>By: The How-To Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>The How-To Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They really didn&#039;t include a lot of new features for us kubuntu users. I&#039;m looking forward to KDE4, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They really didn&#8217;t include a lot of new features for us kubuntu users. I&#8217;m looking forward to KDE4, though.</p>
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