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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-121252&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oropher wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s worth noting that this doesn’t exploit any OS X weakness. The user has to grant it administrative permissions (including entering the administrator password) before it can install itself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
It is normally programs that the user runs that make the operating system weak, as rogoisu said. Well, that and a combination of the user&#039;s ignorance. ;)

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-121255&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fucrate wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;woot! the more mac virus action going on, the better, I say.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Take it you&#039;re not a big Mac user. ;)

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-121269&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;m wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, as I could be totally off base, but technically, this is NOT a virus (nor a worm).  It is a trojan horse.  It does not replicate itself, as a virus or worm does.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That&#039;s true, and I mentioned that in the article. However a virus is often used as a general classification for malicious things on your computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-121252" rel="nofollow">Oropher wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>It’s worth noting that this doesn’t exploit any OS X weakness. The user has to grant it administrative permissions (including entering the administrator password) before it can install itself.</p></blockquote>
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<p>It is normally programs that the user runs that make the operating system weak, as rogoisu said. Well, that and a combination of the user&#8217;s ignorance. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-121255" rel="nofollow">fucrate wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>woot! the more mac virus action going on, the better, I say.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Take it you&#8217;re not a big Mac user. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-121269" rel="nofollow">m wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, as I could be totally off base, but technically, this is NOT a virus (nor a worm).  It is a trojan horse.  It does not replicate itself, as a virus or worm does.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That&#8217;s true, and I mentioned that in the article. However a virus is often used as a general classification for malicious things on your computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Oropher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oropher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-121257&quot;&gt;rogoisu wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;[quote]It’s worth noting that this doesn’t exploit any OS X weakness. The user has to grant it administrative permissions (including entering the administrator password) before it can install itself.[/quote]Although this is definitely a good thing, a lot of viruses that people get aren’t due to OS weaknesses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;  
True. (There was an article on Ars Technica a while back to the effect that most infections are the fault of the user, not the OS - can&#039;t find the link right now though.) 
&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-121257&quot;&gt;rogoisu wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; People will get viruses regardless whether it is Mac/Windows, and it will only get much worse for Mac’s, regardless of what the apple fanboyz might have you think.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Macs &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; going to be targeted by malware more as their marketshare grows. There&#039;s less to exploit, because OS X is built with holes &#039;closed by default&#039; as opposed to largely &#039;open by default&#039; on Windows. Unfortunately, because most users are quite happy to grant it privileges to malware, on-demand AV is now a necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-121257">rogoisu wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>[quote]It’s worth noting that this doesn’t exploit any OS X weakness. The user has to grant it administrative permissions (including entering the administrator password) before it can install itself.[/quote]Although this is definitely a good thing, a lot of viruses that people get aren’t due to OS weaknesses.</p></blockquote>
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<p>True. (There was an article on Ars Technica a while back to the effect that most infections are the fault of the user, not the OS &#8211; can&#8217;t find the link right now though.) </p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-121257">rogoisu wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote> People will get viruses regardless whether it is Mac/Windows, and it will only get much worse for Mac’s, regardless of what the apple fanboyz might have you think.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Macs <em>are</em> going to be targeted by malware more as their marketshare grows. There&#8217;s less to exploit, because OS X is built with holes &#8216;closed by default&#8217; as opposed to largely &#8216;open by default&#8217; on Windows. Unfortunately, because most users are quite happy to grant it privileges to malware, on-demand AV is now a necessity.</p>
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		<title>By: jacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following Israel experts, who join US specialized companies, in a very next future Mac Os&#039;es are going to be more and more targetted by virus makers and all. From a synthesis aricle (in &quot;mico-imaso&quot;, SKorea where I was some days ago), worlwide market analysts say Mc users are to become a new market target thus. Anti-virus, protection and privacy tools suits will not be avoidable for them. Mc users become this way a double target, as windows users it could be said.
Apple could loose a lot. It&#039;s a constatation and a market reality, regarding Mc users behaviour, they say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following Israel experts, who join US specialized companies, in a very next future Mac Os&#8217;es are going to be more and more targetted by virus makers and all. From a synthesis aricle (in &#8220;mico-imaso&#8221;, SKorea where I was some days ago), worlwide market analysts say Mc users are to become a new market target thus. Anti-virus, protection and privacy tools suits will not be avoidable for them. Mc users become this way a double target, as windows users it could be said.<br />
Apple could loose a lot. It&#8217;s a constatation and a market reality, regarding Mc users behaviour, they say.</p>
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		<title>By: jacques</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following some experts in Israel, who join some US specialized companies analyses in order to face a yet here near future, Macs OS Xs are to become more and more targetted by virus makers and all.
So in the next two years, products suits for survival shall be released on the Mac users market. Those products will not be avoidable for Mac users. Who are this way a double target now, in the same way Windows users are. This is a constatation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following some experts in Israel, who join some US specialized companies analyses in order to face a yet here near future, Macs OS Xs are to become more and more targetted by virus makers and all.<br />
So in the next two years, products suits for survival shall be released on the Mac users market. Those products will not be avoidable for Mac users. Who are this way a double target now, in the same way Windows users are. This is a constatation.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 04:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone can correct me if I&#039;m wrong, as I could be totally off base, but technically, this is NOT a virus (nor a worm).  It is a trojan horse.  It does not replicate itself, as a virus or worm does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone can correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, as I could be totally off base, but technically, this is NOT a virus (nor a worm).  It is a trojan horse.  It does not replicate itself, as a virus or worm does.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow! 14 years without a virus?! I&#039;ll admit that I&#039;ve never had virus protection, but I have cleaned my system via a web based scanner before.

I have also noticed that the majority of viruses prey on people&#039;s stupidity. I think I just need smarter friends (fucrate, you&#039;re out).  :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow! 14 years without a virus?! I&#8217;ll admit that I&#8217;ve never had virus protection, but I have cleaned my system via a web based scanner before.</p>
<p>I have also noticed that the majority of viruses prey on people&#8217;s stupidity. I think I just need smarter friends (fucrate, you&#8217;re out).  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rogoisu</title>
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		<dc:creator>rogoisu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]It’s worth noting that this doesn’t exploit any OS X weakness. The user has to grant it administrative permissions (including entering the administrator password) before it can install itself.[/quote]

Although this is definitely a good thing, a lot of viruses that people get aren&#039;t due to OS weaknesses.  I&#039;ve been computing for about 14+ years, since I was around 10-12 years old, yet I have never gotten a virus.  I consider myself extremely lucky -- but I also consider myself an informed netizen.  People will get viruses regardless whether it is Mac/Windows, and it will only get much worse for Mac&#039;s, regardless of what the apple fanboyz might have you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]It’s worth noting that this doesn’t exploit any OS X weakness. The user has to grant it administrative permissions (including entering the administrator password) before it can install itself.[/quote]</p>
<p>Although this is definitely a good thing, a lot of viruses that people get aren&#8217;t due to OS weaknesses.  I&#8217;ve been computing for about 14+ years, since I was around 10-12 years old, yet I have never gotten a virus.  I consider myself extremely lucky &#8212; but I also consider myself an informed netizen.  People will get viruses regardless whether it is Mac/Windows, and it will only get much worse for Mac&#8217;s, regardless of what the apple fanboyz might have you think.</p>
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		<title>By: fucrate</title>
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		<dc:creator>fucrate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woot! the more mac virus action going on, the better, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woot! the more mac virus action going on, the better, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: Oropher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oropher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth noting that this doesn&#039;t exploit any OS X weakness. The user has to grant it administrative permissions (including entering the administrator password) before it can install itself.
Also, ClamAV-based anti-virus programs like ClamXav only do manual scans, so while it might clean up after OSX.RSPlug.A, it probably won&#039;t stop you getting it to start with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth noting that this doesn&#8217;t exploit any OS X weakness. The user has to grant it administrative permissions (including entering the administrator password) before it can install itself.<br />
Also, ClamAV-based anti-virus programs like ClamXav only do manual scans, so while it might clean up after OSX.RSPlug.A, it probably won&#8217;t stop you getting it to start with.</p>
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