Comments on: Opera 9 Leads The Way With New AJAX Technology http://cybernetnews.com/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/ Technology News Sun, 27 May 2012 02:30:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: TheBaron88http://cybernetnews.com/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15872 TheBaron88 Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:08:30 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/09/01/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15872 It appears the Ajax works, just the javascript layout is the problem, Google should try and make it cross browser compatible, well until somebody designs web 2.0 standards that include Ajax and javascript. It appears the Ajax works, just the javascript layout is the problem, Google should try and make it cross browser compatible, well until somebody designs web 2.0 standards that include Ajax and javascript.

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15819 Ryan Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:38:46 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/09/01/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15819 I actually wonder how much of their code looks something like:if (browser = Firefox){ //do this } elseif (browser = IE){ //do this }I wonder if most of their code is really browser specific or if it is just small sections. I imagine that they have to do more of that then you think which makes it difficult to support all browsers, unless of course they used standards.The best part is that the <a href="http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/" rel="nofollow">Google Web Toolkit</a>, which helps developers create AJAX sites, will "support IE, Firefox, Mozilla, Safari, and Opera with no browser detection." I actually wonder how much of their code looks something like:

if (browser = Firefox){
//do this
}
elseif (browser = IE){
//do this
}

I wonder if most of their code is really browser specific or if it is just small sections. I imagine that they have to do more of that then you think which makes it difficult to support all browsers, unless of course they used standards.

The best part is that the [code.google.com] which helps developers create AJAX sites, will “support IE, Firefox, Mozilla, Safari, and Opera with no browser detection.”

]]> By: Savadeep Speaks! » I am but not at all surprised of Opera 9 leading the way!http://cybernetnews.com/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15804 Savadeep Speaks! » I am but not at all surprised of Opera 9 leading the way! Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:16:44 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/09/01/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15804 [...] It was of today that I was a reader of this article and this article, both most interesting! They articles, they are discussers of some persistent connection feature for AJAX that Opera 9 is now an offerer of. [...] [...] It was of today that I was a reader of this article and this article, both most interesting! They articles, they are discussers of some persistent connection feature for AJAX that Opera 9 is now an offerer of. [...]

]]> By: Inferno_str1kehttp://cybernetnews.com/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15732 Inferno_str1ke Sat, 02 Sep 2006 12:44:19 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/09/01/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15732 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-15445">Ryan wrote:</a><blockquote>instead I think it is Google designing their services to only work properly with certain browsers.</blockquote></div> That is the one persistent problem with most Google services - as great as they are it's totally different from everything else on the web. They don't conform to any web standards, because most pages are generated using a mish-mash of AJAX, PHP and JavaScript. For these reasons any difference in the way a browser handles this kind of code can mess their services up. I would be interested to know if the similar Windows Live and Yahoo services work on Opera. If they do, Google truly needs to think about how they're making the services. Ryan wrote:
instead I think it is Google designing their services to only work properly with certain browsers.

That is the one persistent problem with most Google services – as great as they are it’s totally different from everything else on the web. They don’t conform to any web standards, because most pages are generated using a mish-mash of AJAX, PHP and JavaScript. For these reasons any difference in the way a browser handles this kind of code can mess their services up. I would be interested to know if the similar Windows Live and Yahoo services work on Opera. If they do, Google truly needs to think about how they’re making the services.

]]> By: Wolfganghttp://cybernetnews.com/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15661 Wolfgang Sat, 02 Sep 2006 09:53:31 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/09/01/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15661 The Idea of persistent HTTP-Connections is not new and as far as I know Firefox also supports this. The problem with persistent connections is that the server must hold data for each session resulting in a resource problem at the server side. Traditionly the server forgets everything when a request is finished and frees up its memory. With persistens connections memory can't be freed so you need realy "big server". It is better for the server to get many requests, check for data and return with no data in milliseconds the to hold thousands of persistent connections. The Idea of persistent HTTP-Connections is not new and as far as I know Firefox also supports this. The problem with persistent connections is that the server must hold data for each session resulting in a resource problem at the server side.
Traditionly the server forgets everything when a request is finished and frees up its memory. With persistens connections memory can’t be freed so you need realy “big server”.
It is better for the server to get many requests, check for data and return with no data in milliseconds the to hold thousands of persistent connections.

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15445 Ryan Sat, 02 Sep 2006 00:06:12 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/09/01/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15445 Unfortunately, for many people the reason for not using Opera more is a lack of Google compatibility. What's really bad is that I don't think it is Opera's fault, instead I think it is Google designing their services to only work properly with certain browsers.Sure they cover a large portion of the market share with the Firefox and IE compatibility but I still don't think they should forget about the other browsers. Unfortunately, for many people the reason for not using Opera more is a lack of Google compatibility. What’s really bad is that I don’t think it is Opera’s fault, instead I think it is Google designing their services to only work properly with certain browsers.

Sure they cover a large portion of the market share with the Firefox and IE compatibility but I still don’t think they should forget about the other browsers.

]]> By: TheBaron88http://cybernetnews.com/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15433 TheBaron88 Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:22:24 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/09/01/opera-9-leads-the-way-with-new-ajax-technology/#comment-15433 Sure, its nice to have cool features like this, but when your in-built rss reader on your Google homepage and other Google ajax services still don't work it makes you switch back to ie or ff. I still prefer Opera for viewing static pages because of the programs loading speed and the general page loading speed. Sure, its nice to have cool features like this, but when your in-built rss reader on your Google homepage and other Google ajax services still don’t work it makes you switch back to ie or ff. I still prefer Opera for viewing static pages because of the programs loading speed and the general page loading speed.

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