Comments on: Opera 9.5 is Almost Done http://cybernetnews.com/opera-95-is-almost-done/ Technology News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:53:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/opera-95-is-almost-done/comment-page-1/#comment-139054 Ryan Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:42:43 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=13046#comment-139054 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-139017" rel="nofollow">Cody wrote:</a><blockquote>The improved theme has a less dark toolbar and panels (there were complaints that the theme was too dark). The active tab stands out more now, there is a new blue Home button which balances out the striking presence of the green button (it was a bit too much before), and some overall polish.</blockquote></div> I did see that they released the version with all of the theme changes, and it's impressive that they responded to the feedback of the users. I do agree that the blue Home button balances out the Refresh button. <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-139030" rel="nofollow">Googler (Phillip Black) wrote:</a><blockquote>Kinda fell bad for them since Firefox 3 will crush them…. :twisted:</blockquote></div> Yeah, but Opera has their own diehard fans that will surely be excited about the release. <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-139035" rel="nofollow">Cody wrote:</a><blockquote>@Googler, Sure it will in terms of downloads — it’s the leading browser after IE. People, the majority of people, lack the advanced level of knowledge and aesthetics, in order to evaluate a web browser with objective criteria. Hence, tha majority of population is usually wrong.</blockquote></div> Firefox has a huge word-of-mouth campaign that has really proven to work for them. I actually have people ask quite a bit what Firefox is, and whether they should be using it. I don't think that I have ever had someone ask me about Opera. <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-139036" rel="nofollow">Pallab wrote:</a><blockquote>With CEO’s address and all I get a feeling that the final build of Kestrel may be here sooner than end of June.</blockquote></div> Yup, it will definitely be June according to the stuff I read. Opera Watch said "With Opera 9.5 and Firefox 3 both around the corner, June is shaping up to be a good month for the future of the web." I would say that's a good indication of a June release. <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-139041" rel="nofollow">Lashiec wrote:</a><blockquote>Wow, I thought it was going to take a bit longer to reach the RC state. It seems that contrary to my assumptions, maybe Firefox won’t reach final sooner than Opera. In any case, it’s time to backup data for a clean installation :)</blockquote></div> Yup, starting with a clean profile for every major release is something I always do. Helps alleviate some of the problems that people tend to have. Cody wrote:
The improved theme has a less dark toolbar and panels (there were complaints that the theme was too dark). The active tab stands out more now, there is a new blue Home button which balances out the striking presence of the green button (it was a bit too much before), and some overall polish.

I did see that they released the version with all of the theme changes, and it’s impressive that they responded to the feedback of the users. I do agree that the blue Home button balances out the Refresh button.

Googler (Phillip Black) wrote:
Kinda fell bad for them since Firefox 3 will crush them…. :twisted:

Yeah, but Opera has their own diehard fans that will surely be excited about the release.

Cody wrote:
@Googler,
Sure it will in terms of downloads — it’s the leading browser after IE. People, the majority of people, lack the advanced level of knowledge and aesthetics, in order to evaluate a web browser with objective criteria. Hence, tha majority of population is usually wrong.

Firefox has a huge word-of-mouth campaign that has really proven to work for them. I actually have people ask quite a bit what Firefox is, and whether they should be using it. I don’t think that I have ever had someone ask me about Opera.

Pallab wrote:
With CEO’s address and all I get a feeling that the final build of Kestrel may be here sooner than end of June.

Yup, it will definitely be June according to the stuff I read. Opera Watch said “With Opera 9.5 and Firefox 3 both around the corner, June is shaping up to be a good month for the future of the web.” I would say that’s a good indication of a June release.

Lashiec wrote:
Wow, I thought it was going to take a bit longer to reach the RC state. It seems that contrary to my assumptions, maybe Firefox won’t reach final sooner than Opera. In any case, it’s time to backup data for a clean installation :)

Yup, starting with a clean profile for every major release is something I always do. Helps alleviate some of the problems that people tend to have.

]]> By: Lashiec http://cybernetnews.com/opera-95-is-almost-done/comment-page-1/#comment-139041 Lashiec Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:37:34 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=13046#comment-139041 Wow, I thought it was going to take a bit longer to reach the RC state. It seems that contrary to my assumptions, maybe Firefox won't reach final sooner than Opera. In any case, it's time to backup data for a clean installation :) Wow, I thought it was going to take a bit longer to reach the RC state. It seems that contrary to my assumptions, maybe Firefox won’t reach final sooner than Opera. In any case, it’s time to backup data for a clean installation :)

]]> By: Pallab http://cybernetnews.com/opera-95-is-almost-done/comment-page-1/#comment-139036 Pallab Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:25:12 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=13046#comment-139036 With CEO's address and all I get a feeling that the final build of Kestrel may be here sooner than end of June. With CEO’s address and all I get a feeling that the final build of Kestrel may be here sooner than end of June.

]]> By: Cody http://cybernetnews.com/opera-95-is-almost-done/comment-page-1/#comment-139035 Cody Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:09:41 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=13046#comment-139035 @Googler, Sure it will in terms of downloads -- it's the leading browser after IE. People, the majority of people, lack the advanced level of knowledge and aesthetics, in order to evaluate a web browser with objective criteria. Hence, tha majority of population is usually wrong. Having said that, it is only natural that IE and Firefox lead the browser market. Most people use Firefox just for the hype and because of the extensions (which are already built in in Opera and Maxthon). I am both a Firefox and Opera user -- I just don't let myself get influenced with the former's huge marketing campaign every time a new version is released. This time FF3 will be marketed not only as the "safest", and "fastest" browser, but also as the one with the smallest memory footprint. And believe me, when the final versions of both Opera and Firefox are released, these statements will be proven wrong. @Googler,
Sure it will in terms of downloads — it’s the leading browser after IE. People, the majority of people, lack the advanced level of knowledge and aesthetics, in order to evaluate a web browser with objective criteria. Hence, tha majority of population is usually wrong. Having said that, it is only natural that IE and Firefox lead the browser market. Most people use Firefox just for the hype and because of the extensions (which are already built in in Opera and Maxthon).

I am both a Firefox and Opera user — I just don’t let myself get influenced with the former’s huge marketing campaign every time a new version is released. This time FF3 will be marketed not only as the “safest”, and “fastest” browser, but also as the one with the smallest memory footprint. And believe me, when the final versions of both Opera and Firefox are released, these statements will be proven wrong.

]]> By: Googler (Phillip Black) http://cybernetnews.com/opera-95-is-almost-done/comment-page-1/#comment-139030 Googler (Phillip Black) Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:05:19 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=13046#comment-139030 Kinda fell bad for them since Firefox 3 will crush them.... :twisted: Kinda fell bad for them since Firefox 3 will crush them…. :twisted:

]]> By: Cody http://cybernetnews.com/opera-95-is-almost-done/comment-page-1/#comment-139017 Cody Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:38:46 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=13046#comment-139017 I'd like to point out that the new default theme is different from the one that was first introduced one week ago. The developers have listened to the feedback of the users (more users provided feedback on the skin snapshot than any other snapshot) and made some noticeable changes: The improved theme has a less dark toolbar and panels (there were complaints that the theme was too dark). The active tab stands out more now, there is a new blue Home button which balances out the striking presence of the green button (it was a bit too much before), and some overall polish. Also I've noticed that Gmail and Google Docs seem to work OK now -- hopefully with the release of 9.5 Final, Google will bypass the browser check on most Google products. I’d like to point out that the new default theme is different from the one that was first introduced one week ago. The developers have listened to the feedback of the users (more users provided feedback on the skin snapshot than any other snapshot) and made some noticeable changes:

The improved theme has a less dark toolbar and panels (there were complaints that the theme was too dark). The active tab stands out more now, there is a new blue Home button which balances out the striking presence of the green button (it was a bit too much before), and some overall polish.

Also I’ve noticed that Gmail and Google Docs seem to work OK now — hopefully with the release of 9.5 Final, Google will bypass the browser check on most Google products.

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