Comments on: So What’s Going On With Firefox 3.0 (Minefield)? http://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/ Technology News Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: natmasterhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26489 natmaster Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:12:20 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26489 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-26473">SLA wrote:</a><blockquote>OK, but here is another mystery: Nightly/Latest-trunk and Nightly/Experimental/Reflow-refactor/Latest-trunk have different Gecko engines (one is similar to 1.8.1 and doesn't pass Acid2, and another do pass Acid2 perfectly). But both have the same Gecko engine version: 1.9a1. Why??</blockquote></div> By time you see a release of Gecko 1.9a1 the reflow branch will have merged with the trunk and they will be one! SLA wrote:
OK, but here is another mystery:
Nightly/Latest-trunk and Nightly/Experimental/Reflow-refactor/Latest-trunk have different Gecko engines (one is similar to 1.8.1 and doesn’t pass Acid2, and another do pass Acid2 perfectly).
But both have the same Gecko engine version: 1.9a1. Why??

By time you see a release of Gecko 1.9a1 the reflow branch will have merged with the trunk and they will be one!

]]> By: SLAhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26473 SLA Thu, 12 Oct 2006 10:11:00 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26473 OK, but here is another mystery: Nightly/Latest-trunk and Nightly/Experimental/Reflow-refactor/Latest-trunk have different Gecko engines (one is similar to 1.8.1 and doesn't pass Acid2, and another do pass Acid2 perfectly). But both have the same Gecko engine version: 1.9a1. Why?? OK, but here is another mystery:
Nightly/Latest-trunk and Nightly/Experimental/Reflow-refactor/Latest-trunk have different Gecko engines (one is similar to 1.8.1 and doesn’t pass Acid2, and another do pass Acid2 perfectly).
But both have the same Gecko engine version: 1.9a1. Why??

]]> By: natmasterhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26447 natmaster Thu, 12 Oct 2006 02:35:03 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26447 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-26413">SLA wrote:</a><blockquote>IT PASSED ACID2 TEST !!!!! :D :D :D :D :D Natmaster, thanks for that link!!!!!</blockquote></div>Reflow branch has actually been passing the test for months now (April to be exact); you can see the first reports of this on the <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289480" rel="nofollow">bugzilla bug</a> entry for the acid2 test. Or at a developer's <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289480" rel="nofollow">blog</a>. SLA wrote:
IT PASSED ACID2 TEST !!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
Natmaster, thanks for that link!!!!!

Reflow branch has actually been passing the test for months now (April to be exact); you can see the first reports of this on the [bugzilla.mozilla.org] entry for the acid2 test. Or at a developer’s [bugzilla.mozilla.org]

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26422 Ryan Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:01:45 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26422 I like that comparison and if you update it let me know. I would love to check it out! I like that comparison and if you update it let me know. I would love to check it out!

]]> By: stopsatgreenhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26421 stopsatgreen Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:27:27 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26421 Sorry, those links are:<a href="http://www.petergasston.co.uk/2006/03/the-stop-using-internet-explorer-challenge" rel="nofollow">Comparison</a><a href="http://www.petergasston.co.uk/2006/04/making-the-web-look-nicer" rel="nofollow">Firefox 3</a> Sorry, those links are:

[petergasston.co.uk]

[petergasston.co.uk]

]]> By: stopsatgreenhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26420 stopsatgreen Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:23:19 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26420 It's 6 months out of date now, but I did a comparison of major browser compliance with the Acid2 test; you can see the results here:<a href="http://www.petergasston.co.uk/2006/03/the-stop-using-internet-explorer-challenge" rel="nofollow">http://www.petergasston.co.uk/2006/03/the-stop-using-internet-explorer-challenge</a>I didn't have access to Firefox 3 (Gecko 1.9) at the time, but I followed up later:<a href="http://www.petergasston.co.uk/2006/04/making-the-web-look-nicer" rel="nofollow">http://www.petergasston.co.uk/2006/04/making-the-web-look-nicer</a>That reminds me to do a follow-up! It’s 6 months out of date now, but I did a comparison of major browser compliance with the Acid2 test; you can see the results here:

[petergasston.co.uk]

I didn’t have access to Firefox 3 (Gecko 1.9) at the time, but I followed up later:

[petergasston.co.uk]

That reminds me to do a follow-up!

]]> By: SLAhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26413 SLA Wed, 11 Oct 2006 19:08:25 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26413 IT PASSED ACID2 TEST !!!!! :D :D :D :D :D Natmaster, thanks for that link!!!!! IT PASSED ACID2 TEST !!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
Natmaster, thanks for that link!!!!!

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26410 Ryan Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:10:34 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26410 Thanks for posting that reflow branch. I started looking for it after you mentioned it and it is pretty sweet. It is nice having a browser pass the Acid 2 test! ;) Thanks for posting that reflow branch. I started looking for it after you mentioned it and it is pretty sweet. It is nice having a browser pass the Acid 2 test! ;)

]]> By: natmasterhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26405 natmaster Wed, 11 Oct 2006 16:50:21 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26405 <div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-26385">SLA wrote:</a><blockquote>There is a screenshot of <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/dbaron/126886608/" rel="nofollow">Firefox (on a development branch) passing the Acid2 test</a>, but it could be fake, since I can't find such build. Anybody can find it?Acid2 test is passed by Opera since some 9.0 developer build. It is also passed by Safari and iCab (Mac OS X), Konqueror (Linux).Also there is a very interesting(!) article, where Hakon Wium Lie (Opera's Chief Technology Officer) challenges Microsoft. It is about standard compliance in upcoming IE7, and it was written in March 2005, when Opera was NOT passing Acid2 itself. I recommend to read this, here it is: <a href="http://news.com.com/The Acid2 challenge to Microsoft/2010-1032_3-5618723.html" rel="nofollow">The Acid2 challenge to Microsoft</a></blockquote></div>Latest reflow branch here: <a href="ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/reflow-refactor/latest-trunk" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/reflow-refactor/latest-trunk</a> SLA wrote:
There is a screenshot of [flickr.com] but it could be fake, since I can’t find such build. Anybody can find it?

Acid2 test is passed by Opera since some 9.0 developer build. It is also passed by Safari and iCab (Mac OS X), Konqueror (Linux).

Also there is a very interesting(!) article, where Hakon Wium Lie (Opera’s Chief Technology Officer) challenges Microsoft. It is about standard compliance in upcoming IE7, and it was written in March 2005, when Opera was NOT passing Acid2 itself. I recommend to read this, here it is:
[news.com.com] Acid2 challenge to Microsoft/2010-1032_3-5618723.html

Latest reflow branch here: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/experimental/reflow-refactor/latest-trunk

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26394 Ryan Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:27:44 +0000 http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2006/10/10/so-whats-going-on-with-firefox-30-minefield/#comment-26394 @natmaster: That is a lot of really interesting information...thanks for sharing!<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-26362">James wrote:</a><blockquote><blockquote>...what Firefox 3 (codenamed Minefield)</blockquote>**Buzzer** ..Wrong!Minefield is the name for the Trunk itself where Firefox 3.0 is currently being developed on and not Firefox 3.0 as for 3.0 it is or will be Gran Paradiso when branched. The Trunk has been labeled Minefield/3.0a1 since back in mid-April about (bumped from Firefox/1.6a as people thought the 1.6 Trunk was the next major release at time).http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3 http://wiki.mozilla.org/Global:1.9_Trunk_1.8_Branch_Plan</blockquote></div> You are absolutely right...and the bad thing is that I just found out the codename the other day so it was still fresh in my mind. :oops:<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-26385">SLA wrote:</a><blockquote>There is a screenshot of <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/dbaron/126886608/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Firefox (on a development branch) passing the Acid2 test</a>, but it could be fake, since I can't find such build. Anybody can find it?</blockquote></div> I have also heard of the Firefox that supposedly passes the Acid 2 test but I am yet to get my hands on a build that does. I pretty frequently check to see if anything has changed on the Acid 2 test for new Firefox builds but the results are normally the same. @natmaster: That is a lot of really interesting information…thanks for sharing!

James wrote:
…what Firefox 3 (codenamed Minefield)

**Buzzer** ..Wrong!

Minefield is the name for the Trunk itself where Firefox 3.0 is currently being developed on and not Firefox 3.0 as for 3.0 it is or will be Gran Paradiso when branched. The Trunk has been labeled Minefield/3.0a1 since back in mid-April about (bumped from Firefox/1.6a as people thought the 1.6 Trunk was the next major release at time).

[wiki.mozilla.org]
[wiki.mozilla.org]

You are absolutely right…and the bad thing is that I just found out the codename the other day so it was still fresh in my mind. :oops:

SLA wrote:
There is a screenshot of [flickr.com] but it could be fake, since I can’t find such build. Anybody can find it?

I have also heard of the Firefox that supposedly passes the Acid 2 test but I am yet to get my hands on a build that does. I pretty frequently check to see if anything has changed on the Acid 2 test for new Firefox builds but the results are normally the same.

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