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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/sony-hears-ya-removes-bloatware-free-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-133605</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-133481&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;leland wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Companies pay them to install this software.  That’s why Sony was trying to make up the difference by charging the user.  Instead they will probably just build the cost into the overall cost and not tell us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Yeah, I thought about them doing that as well which means that they could make even more money overall since many users may never think to remove the software. So they&#039;ll get the benefit of the markup in addition to the fees from the companies for installing the software.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-133485&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tinhed wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/windows-tax-i-dont-think-so/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/win.....-think-so/&lt;/a&gt;

This one makes for an interesting read. What about those people who do not need the biggest bloatware of ‘em all ‘Windows Vista’. Without an Operating system you would think the Laptop would be a lot cheaper. But imagine being asked to pay
70$  more for a removing windows.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That&#039;s really nuts, but I&#039;m sure Microsoft is giving the manufacturers an incentive for selling machines with Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133481" rel="nofollow">leland wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Companies pay them to install this software.  That’s why Sony was trying to make up the difference by charging the user.  Instead they will probably just build the cost into the overall cost and not tell us.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Yeah, I thought about them doing that as well which means that they could make even more money overall since many users may never think to remove the software. So they&#8217;ll get the benefit of the markup in addition to the fees from the companies for installing the software.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133485" rel="nofollow">Tinhed wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>[<a href='http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/windows-tax-i-dont-think-so/' rel='nofollow'>ubuntulinuxhelp.com</a>]</p>
<p>This one makes for an interesting read. What about those people who do not need the biggest bloatware of ‘em all ‘Windows Vista’. Without an Operating system you would think the Laptop would be a lot cheaper. But imagine being asked to pay<br />
70$  more for a removing windows.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That&#8217;s really nuts, but I&#8217;m sure Microsoft is giving the manufacturers an incentive for selling machines with Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinhed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tinhed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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This one makes for an interesting read. What about those people who do not need the biggest bloatware of &#039;em all &#039;Windows Vista&#039;. Without an Operating system you would think the Laptop would be a lot cheaper. But imagine being asked to pay  
70$  more for a removing windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[<a href='http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/windows-tax-i-dont-think-so/' rel='nofollow'>ubuntulinuxhelp.com</a>]</p>
<p>This one makes for an interesting read. What about those people who do not need the biggest bloatware of &#8216;em all &#8216;Windows Vista&#8217;. Without an Operating system you would think the Laptop would be a lot cheaper. But imagine being asked to pay<br />
70$  more for a removing windows.</p>
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		<title>By: leland</title>
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		<dc:creator>leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Companies pay them to install this software.  That&#039;s why Sony was trying to make up the difference by charging the user.  Instead they will probably just build the cost into the overall cost and not tell us.  With the power of the blogs making things much more visible and transparent than ever before trying what they were attempting to do would be commercial suicide.  Hence they pulled the plug at least officially.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Companies pay them to install this software.  That&#8217;s why Sony was trying to make up the difference by charging the user.  Instead they will probably just build the cost into the overall cost and not tell us.  With the power of the blogs making things much more visible and transparent than ever before trying what they were attempting to do would be commercial suicide.  Hence they pulled the plug at least officially.  It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait, so you gotta pay ($50) them not to install apps??? These days things just get weirder and weirder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait, so you gotta pay ($50) them not to install apps??? These days things just get weirder and weirder.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-133458&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Dobrofsky wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;See everyone! The people have the power. If only we realized that all of the time ;)&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Well in some cases that&#039;s true. I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to be able to persuade Sony to do this for any of their cheaper notebooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-133458" rel="nofollow">Michael Dobrofsky wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>See everyone! The people have the power. If only we realized that all of the time <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>Well in some cases that&#8217;s true. I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to be able to persuade Sony to do this for any of their cheaper notebooks.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dobrofsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dobrofsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See everyone! The people have the power. If only we realized that all of the time ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See everyone! The people have the power. If only we realized that all of the time <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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