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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 00:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@s:&lt;/strong&gt; I&#039;ve used TabMixPlus for a long time, but that always seemed to be the extension that would cause the heavy memory usage in Firefox. Thanks for pointing out the notifier extension though, that looks pretty sweet.


&lt;strong&gt;@Andrew:&lt;/strong&gt; Switch? I haven&#039;t switched. I use both Firefox and Opera on a regular basis.


&lt;strong&gt;@Nosh:&lt;/strong&gt; I couldn&#039;t help but laugh at the fact you replaced the close button with a minimize button. :) That is the funniest thing I heard all week.


&lt;strong&gt;@thorbeast:&lt;/strong&gt; I would agree that it is useful, but it can actually be overly useful. I wish they offered multiple versions of the extension so that people looking to keep their Firefox slim and fit could install a more barebones version.


&lt;strong&gt;@James:&lt;/strong&gt; I understand that they are trying to keep the bloat out of the browser, and I&#039;m all for that. I don&#039;t think that they should be bloating the browser with more features that decrease the effeciency of the browser. However, these two features could be implemented without adding anymore overhead since the features are already built-in. The two extensions that I mention which solve the problems don&#039;t do anything other than set a couple values in the about:config.


&lt;strong&gt;@Mris:&lt;/strong&gt; I would use that extension, but I prefer to use the built-in features of the browser. Using a separate session manager, in my opinion, is like reinventing the wheel.


&lt;strong&gt;@s427:&lt;/strong&gt; I guess if you restart your browser often the popup box would get annoying in Opera. I do like your idea of having a shortcut to start a &quot;blank Firefox&quot; and that has me wondering whether that is possible? It sounds simple enough and might be something you can do.


&lt;strong&gt;@Pieter:&lt;/strong&gt; :) I know one other person that always does that and I always thought it was funny. It&#039;s essentially crashing Firefox on purpose, and I always thought that was ironic since the last thing you normally want to do is crash a program.  :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@s:</strong> I&#8217;ve used TabMixPlus for a long time, but that always seemed to be the extension that would cause the heavy memory usage in Firefox. Thanks for pointing out the notifier extension though, that looks pretty sweet.</p>
<p><strong>@Andrew:</strong> Switch? I haven&#8217;t switched. I use both Firefox and Opera on a regular basis.</p>
<p><strong>@Nosh:</strong> I couldn&#8217;t help but laugh at the fact you replaced the close button with a minimize button. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  That is the funniest thing I heard all week.</p>
<p><strong>@thorbeast:</strong> I would agree that it is useful, but it can actually be overly useful. I wish they offered multiple versions of the extension so that people looking to keep their Firefox slim and fit could install a more barebones version.</p>
<p><strong>@James:</strong> I understand that they are trying to keep the bloat out of the browser, and I&#8217;m all for that. I don&#8217;t think that they should be bloating the browser with more features that decrease the effeciency of the browser. However, these two features could be implemented without adding anymore overhead since the features are already built-in. The two extensions that I mention which solve the problems don&#8217;t do anything other than set a couple values in the about:config.</p>
<p><strong>@Mris:</strong> I would use that extension, but I prefer to use the built-in features of the browser. Using a separate session manager, in my opinion, is like reinventing the wheel.</p>
<p><strong>@s427:</strong> I guess if you restart your browser often the popup box would get annoying in Opera. I do like your idea of having a shortcut to start a &#8220;blank Firefox&#8221; and that has me wondering whether that is possible? It sounds simple enough and might be something you can do.</p>
<p><strong>@Pieter:</strong> <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I know one other person that always does that and I always thought it was funny. It&#8217;s essentially crashing Firefox on purpose, and I always thought that was ironic since the last thing you normally want to do is crash a program.  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pieter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pieter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 14:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I want to save my session, I just kill the Firefox process. Then, after starting Firefox, it will ask me whether I want to restore my session or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I want to save my session, I just kill the Firefox process. Then, after starting Firefox, it will ask me whether I want to restore my session or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Nosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 11:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe a good solution would be a simple extension which would add a toolbar button to close all tabs at once ?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tbutton.mozdev.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ToolBar Buttons&lt;/a&gt; will let you do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe a good solution would be a simple extension which would add a toolbar button to close all tabs at once ?</p></blockquote>
<p>[<a href='http://tbutton.mozdev.org/' rel='nofollow'>tbutton.mozdev.org</a>] will let you do this.</p>
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		<title>By: s427</title>
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		<dc:creator>s427</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 11:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I would prefer to see a prompt when starting the browser like in Opera&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t use Opera so I don&#039;t really know, but I suspect that this feature can become quite annoying if you use your browser really often, as it means an extra click each time it starts. All in all, I think it&#039;s easier to let Firefox restore my previous session, and then close all tabs by myself if I want to. No big deal : a bunch of Ctrl W and it&#039;s done ! :P (I think there&#039;s an option which specify that even if you close the last opened tab, Firefox doesn&#039;t exit; or maybe this option is in TabMixPlus ?)

Maybe a good solution would be a simple extension which would add a toolbar button to close all tabs at once ? (This command can be added to the right-click menu on tabs, thanks to TabMixPlus --again.) Or maybe there exists a special command line, allowing to start Firefox only with a blank page ? This way you could have a special shortcut on your desktop : &quot;Start blank Firefox&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I would prefer to see a prompt when starting the browser like in Opera</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t use Opera so I don&#8217;t really know, but I suspect that this feature can become quite annoying if you use your browser really often, as it means an extra click each time it starts. All in all, I think it&#8217;s easier to let Firefox restore my previous session, and then close all tabs by myself if I want to. No big deal : a bunch of Ctrl W and it&#8217;s done ! <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  (I think there&#8217;s an option which specify that even if you close the last opened tab, Firefox doesn&#8217;t exit; or maybe this option is in TabMixPlus ?)</p>
<p>Maybe a good solution would be a simple extension which would add a toolbar button to close all tabs at once ? (This command can be added to the right-click menu on tabs, thanks to TabMixPlus &#8211;again.) Or maybe there exists a special command line, allowing to start Firefox only with a blank page ? This way you could have a special shortcut on your desktop : &#8220;Start blank Firefox&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 10:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve used the Session Manager extension since even before Firefox 2. You can set it to remember as many sessions as you want and also manually save sessions and get easy access to recently closed tabs. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2324&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve used the Session Manager extension since even before Firefox 2. You can set it to remember as many sessions as you want and also manually save sessions and get easy access to recently closed tabs. </p>
<p><a href="[<a href='https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2324' rel='nofollow'>addons.mozilla.org</a>]"></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 08:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-96747&quot;&gt;s wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;one feature mozilla forgot(i think its in seamonkey?) is tab preview-
http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/tabpreview/&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

They did Not forgot... thankfully. This is not as cool or as useful as one thinks and has had problems in SeaMonkey etc.

As for the Session restore, I&#039;m sure other additions were considered but I think the restore on crash default and the &quot;Show my windows and tabs from last time&quot; feature in the preferences were all that were really needed without going overboard. If people wanted more then there were extensions.

Battling Firefox Bloat - http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/archives/009620.html



The Quote for 4. was not working right as I had to manually try and fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-96747">s wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>one feature mozilla forgot(i think its in seamonkey?) is tab preview-<br />
[<a href='http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/tabpreview/' rel='nofollow'>ted.mielczarek.org</a>]</p></blockquote>
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<p>They did Not forgot&#8230; thankfully. This is not as cool or as useful as one thinks and has had problems in SeaMonkey etc.</p>
<p>As for the Session restore, I&#8217;m sure other additions were considered but I think the restore on crash default and the &#8220;Show my windows and tabs from last time&#8221; feature in the preferences were all that were really needed without going overboard. If people wanted more then there were extensions.</p>
<p>Battling Firefox Bloat &#8211; [<a href='http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/ben/archives/009620.html' rel='nofollow'>weblogs.mozillazine.org</a>]</p>
<p>The Quote for 4. was not working right as I had to manually try and fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: thorbeast</title>
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		<dc:creator>thorbeast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 04:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they integrated some of Tab Mix Plus&#039; features into Firefox 2, but the extra features of the Session Manager in Tab Mix Plus didn&#039;t make it in. No big deal, since that is what extensions are for. I&#039;ve been using TMP since it came out. It&#039;s definitely in my top 5 most useful extension list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they integrated some of Tab Mix Plus&#8217; features into Firefox 2, but the extra features of the Session Manager in Tab Mix Plus didn&#8217;t make it in. No big deal, since that is what extensions are for. I&#8217;ve been using TMP since it came out. It&#8217;s definitely in my top 5 most useful extension list.</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 23:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one feature mozilla forgot(i think its in seamonkey?) is tab preview-
http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/tabpreview/ 


also there is a similair extension on the mozilla addon site called tab scope
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4882</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one feature mozilla forgot(i think its in seamonkey?) is tab preview-<br />
[<a href='http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/tabpreview/' rel='nofollow'>ted.mielczarek.org</a>] </p>
<p>also there is a similair extension on the mozilla addon site called tab scope<br />
[<a href='https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4882' rel='nofollow'>addons.mozilla.org</a>]</p>
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		<title>By: Nosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 23:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second s on TabMixPlus - it adds several genuinely useful features to Firefox. 

Overall though I&#039;m not put off by the fact that FF doesn&#039;t have some (necessary) functionality already built in, just as long as those things are possible using extensions. It keeps the bare app light, like it should be. Firefox takes so long to start on my system that I&#039;ve customized it and replaced the close app button with a minimize button. :roll: 
Helps keep the blood pressure down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second s on TabMixPlus &#8211; it adds several genuinely useful features to Firefox. </p>
<p>Overall though I&#8217;m not put off by the fact that FF doesn&#8217;t have some (necessary) functionality already built in, just as long as those things are possible using extensions. It keeps the bare app light, like it should be. Firefox takes so long to start on my system that I&#8217;ve customized it and replaced the close app button with a minimize button. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Helps keep the blood pressure down.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 23:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You &lt;strong&gt;would&lt;/strong&gt; complain about Firefox...

I like the new spam protection; Was there a reason for the switch? Don&#039;t forget to check out Aaron&#039;s MySpace, they have two new songs since he graduated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You <strong>would</strong> complain about Firefox&#8230;</p>
<p>I like the new spam protection; Was there a reason for the switch? Don&#8217;t forget to check out Aaron&#8217;s MySpace, they have two new songs since he graduated.</p>
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