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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117947&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kelt wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I find it hard to believe that 70% of American’s even know what a firewall is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Well, they probably just assume that it is some part of the antivirus. I don&#039;t actually know many people who know what a firewall is.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117956&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tinhed wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It would be interesting to know what the global trend is as this is a US only survey. But i would say that if a survey is carried out the results will only be worse and not better.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I bet the Japanese would raise the bar. They are way too tech savvy not to know that kind of stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117947" rel="nofollow">Kelt wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I find it hard to believe that 70% of American’s even know what a firewall is.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Well, they probably just assume that it is some part of the antivirus. I don&#8217;t actually know many people who know what a firewall is.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117956" rel="nofollow">Tinhed wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>It would be interesting to know what the global trend is as this is a US only survey. But i would say that if a survey is carried out the results will only be worse and not better.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I bet the Japanese would raise the bar. They are way too tech savvy not to know that kind of stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinhed</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to know what the global trend is as this is a US only survey. But i would say that if a survey is carried out the results will only be worse and not better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to know what the global trend is as this is a US only survey. But i would say that if a survey is carried out the results will only be worse and not better.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to believe that 70% of American&#039;s even know what a firewall is.</description>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117837&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Topshelf wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I just spent 6 hours at a friend of a friends house.  Went over to look at one thing, then noticed that NONE of his 4 pc’s had active anti-virus software or any form of anti-spyware.  Avast picked up a total of 107 viruses and Spysweeper found another 37 items across all the pc’s.  Funny thing is is 15 year old daughter was pissed at me because her system was down during the scans and just kept saying that the pc’s fine.  There’s nothing wrong with it.  Ofcourse it was the worst of the 4 pc’s.  I don’t expect users to know everything, but to be completely blind amazes me.:roll:&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
This is exactly the kind of story I was expecting to hear! It always amazes me that someone could have 4 computers in the house without one having an anti-virus. Yikes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117837" rel="nofollow">Topshelf wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I just spent 6 hours at a friend of a friends house.  Went over to look at one thing, then noticed that NONE of his 4 pc’s had active anti-virus software or any form of anti-spyware.  Avast picked up a total of 107 viruses and Spysweeper found another 37 items across all the pc’s.  Funny thing is is 15 year old daughter was pissed at me because her system was down during the scans and just kept saying that the pc’s fine.  There’s nothing wrong with it.  Ofcourse it was the worst of the 4 pc’s.  I don’t expect users to know everything, but to be completely blind amazes me.:roll:</p></blockquote>
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<p>This is exactly the kind of story I was expecting to hear! It always amazes me that someone could have 4 computers in the house without one having an anti-virus. Yikes!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 02:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117828&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dave wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Most people tend to have whatever came with their computers when they purchased it. So, I find they’re usually running a version of Norton. But the fact of the matter is, it almost doesn’t even matter what people run. They’ll always find ways to infect their computers to hell and back.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
The first thing I always do for people I see using Norton or McAfee is remove it. I know when the license expires they will not renew it, and then they are vulnerable all over again. But yes, no matter what there are plenty of people out there who are magnets for viruses.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117835&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;kiltboy wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Betcha could probably do it using a Word or Excel macro (not that I’ve tried or anything 8) ).&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
There&#039;s no doubt that you could write a malicious macro, but you could do a similar thing in OpenOffice on Linux if you really wanted to. I&#039;m actually surprised at how many OpenOffice users never realize that there have been security holes opened up in Linux as well due to the office suite.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117837&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Topshelf wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I just spent 6 hours at a friend of a friends house.  Went over to look at one thing, then noticed that NONE of his 4 pc’s had active anti-virus software or any form of anti-spyware.  Avast picked up a total of 107 viruses and Spysweeper found another 37 items across all the pc’s.  Funny thing is is 15 year old daughter was pissed at me because her system was down during the scans and just kept saying that the pc’s fine.  There’s nothing wrong with it.  Ofcourse it was the worst of the 4 pc’s.  I don’t expect users to know everything, but to be completely blind amazes me. :roll:&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Now that sounds like a good time! I try to stay clear of doing things like that because of how ignorant people are, and they never really appreciate anything you do. You&#039;ll go back over in two weeks just to find out that it is worse than before. *sigh*

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117838&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Dobrofsky wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The best defence from viruses and spyware is common sense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
Unfortunately users can&#039;t get a subscription to that in the store.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117853&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;netster007x wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey, my AOL Kapersky is auto updating again.  Wuhu.  Glad I waited it out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That good news! Kinda funny how it has its ups and downs.

&lt;div class=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-117858&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ian Cammarata wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The second best defense, keeping your software up to date.  PSI is a great freely available tool to have naive users install on their system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
That is a great application, but unfortunately it is only the tech savvy that know about it. That&#039;s the people who need it the least! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117828" rel="nofollow">Dave wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Most people tend to have whatever came with their computers when they purchased it. So, I find they’re usually running a version of Norton. But the fact of the matter is, it almost doesn’t even matter what people run. They’ll always find ways to infect their computers to hell and back.</p></blockquote>
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<p>The first thing I always do for people I see using Norton or McAfee is remove it. I know when the license expires they will not renew it, and then they are vulnerable all over again. But yes, no matter what there are plenty of people out there who are magnets for viruses.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117835" rel="nofollow">kiltboy wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Betcha could probably do it using a Word or Excel macro (not that I’ve tried or anything <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p></blockquote>
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<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that you could write a malicious macro, but you could do a similar thing in OpenOffice on Linux if you really wanted to. I&#8217;m actually surprised at how many OpenOffice users never realize that there have been security holes opened up in Linux as well due to the office suite.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117837" rel="nofollow">Topshelf wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I just spent 6 hours at a friend of a friends house.  Went over to look at one thing, then noticed that NONE of his 4 pc’s had active anti-virus software or any form of anti-spyware.  Avast picked up a total of 107 viruses and Spysweeper found another 37 items across all the pc’s.  Funny thing is is 15 year old daughter was pissed at me because her system was down during the scans and just kept saying that the pc’s fine.  There’s nothing wrong with it.  Ofcourse it was the worst of the 4 pc’s.  I don’t expect users to know everything, but to be completely blind amazes me. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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<p>Now that sounds like a good time! I try to stay clear of doing things like that because of how ignorant people are, and they never really appreciate anything you do. You&#8217;ll go back over in two weeks just to find out that it is worse than before. *sigh*</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117838" rel="nofollow">Michael Dobrofsky wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>The best defence from viruses and spyware is common sense.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Unfortunately users can&#8217;t get a subscription to that in the store.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117853" rel="nofollow">netster007x wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>Hey, my AOL Kapersky is auto updating again.  Wuhu.  Glad I waited it out.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That good news! Kinda funny how it has its ups and downs.</p>
<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-117858" rel="nofollow">Ian Cammarata wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>The second best defense, keeping your software up to date.  PSI is a great freely available tool to have naive users install on their system.</p></blockquote>
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<p>That is a great application, but unfortunately it is only the tech savvy that know about it. That&#8217;s the people who need it the least! <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ian Cammarata</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second best defense, keeping your software up to date.  PSI is a great freely available tool to have naive users install on their system.

https://psi.secunia.com/

And the third would probably be using an AV program.</description>
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<p>[<a href='https://psi.secunia.com/' rel='nofollow'>psi.secunia.com</a>]</p>
<p>And the third would probably be using an AV program.</p>
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		<title>By: netster007x</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, my AOL Kapersky is auto updating again.  Wuhu.  Glad I waited it out.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Dobrofsky</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best defence from viruses and spyware is common sense.

This just in: Viruses and spyware spreading like wildfire ;)</description>
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<p>This just in: Viruses and spyware spreading like wildfire <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Topshelf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Topshelf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just spent 6 hours at a friend of a friends house.  Went over to look at one thing, then noticed that NONE of his 4 pc&#039;s had active anti-virus software or any form of anti-spyware.  Avast picked up a total of 107 viruses and Spysweeper found another 37 items across all the pc&#039;s.  Funny thing is is 15 year old daughter was pissed at me because her system was down during the scans and just kept saying that the pc&#039;s fine.  There&#039;s nothing wrong with it.  Ofcourse it was the worst of the 4 pc&#039;s.  I don&#039;t expect users to know everything, but to be completely blind amazes me.:roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just spent 6 hours at a friend of a friends house.  Went over to look at one thing, then noticed that NONE of his 4 pc&#8217;s had active anti-virus software or any form of anti-spyware.  Avast picked up a total of 107 viruses and Spysweeper found another 37 items across all the pc&#8217;s.  Funny thing is is 15 year old daughter was pissed at me because her system was down during the scans and just kept saying that the pc&#8217;s fine.  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with it.  Ofcourse it was the worst of the 4 pc&#8217;s.  I don&#8217;t expect users to know everything, but to be completely blind amazes me.:roll:</p>
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		<title>By: kiltboy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame Micro$oft for alot of this.  Yes, they have made computers accessible to everyone, which I think is a great stride.  However, they continue to make their software and by extension, all third-party Windows software, more and more idiot-resistant and easier to use.  This leaves the computer world more accessible to the naive and stupid.  How many people could write a virus for Linux?  Now, how many could write one for Windows?  Betcha could probably do it using a Word or Excel macro (not that I&#039;ve tried or anything 8) ).

It&#039;s naivete, and it doesn&#039;t help that computer resellers are about the hardware and the fun stuff, but they probably don&#039;t push the security very hard.

Remember: no matter how idiot proof you make something, the world WILL create a bigger idiot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame Micro$oft for alot of this.  Yes, they have made computers accessible to everyone, which I think is a great stride.  However, they continue to make their software and by extension, all third-party Windows software, more and more idiot-resistant and easier to use.  This leaves the computer world more accessible to the naive and stupid.  How many people could write a virus for Linux?  Now, how many could write one for Windows?  Betcha could probably do it using a Word or Excel macro (not that I&#8217;ve tried or anything <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s naivete, and it doesn&#8217;t help that computer resellers are about the hardware and the fun stuff, but they probably don&#8217;t push the security very hard.</p>
<p>Remember: no matter how idiot proof you make something, the world WILL create a bigger idiot!</p>
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