Comments on: This Just In: Vista & Leopard Both Suck! http://cybernetnews.com/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/ Technology News Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:53:50 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ryan http://cybernetnews.com/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-124552 Ryan Sat, 01 Dec 2007 23:39:21 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/11/30/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/#comment-124552 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-124467" rel="nofollow">Michael Dobrofsky wrote:</a><blockquote>Maybe Software development has become like TV - too many execs running it and not enough actual creative artists. I suspect a lot, if not all of the things that suck in Vista and Leopard are the result of execs who have no clue about design.</blockquote></div> That is true. These software companies are probably taking fewer risks than they would if it was up to the designers, but they also have untold numbers of users that they need to make sure they satisfy. And I think the general consensus among users is that big change is bad. <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-124468" rel="nofollow">Anonymous wrote:</a><blockquote>strange how I barely saw any bashing on Apple about putting off OS X Leopard after they deliberately picked on Microsoft and promised they would not delay Leopard; sorry, had to be said</blockquote></div> Plus we don't actually know how long Apple was working on this operating system, so we can't exactly calculate how long it took them to make it either. <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-124502" rel="nofollow">Pieter wrote:</a><blockquote>What about the not-so-recent Ubuntu 7.10 upgrade? I didn’t hear any complaints about this upgrade, but that’s probably because of the size of Linux’s market share… :)</blockquote></div> I don't think the Ubuntu upgrade was "big" enough where it would create a lot of issues and anger people. That's one of the benefits of having a 6-month release cycle...people are able to identify problems before they get so out of hand that it becomes unsolvable. Michael Dobrofsky wrote:
Maybe Software development has become like TV – too many execs running it and not enough actual creative artists. I suspect a lot, if not all of the things that suck in Vista and Leopard are the result of execs who have no clue about design.

That is true. These software companies are probably taking fewer risks than they would if it was up to the designers, but they also have untold numbers of users that they need to make sure they satisfy. And I think the general consensus among users is that big change is bad.

Anonymous wrote:
strange how I barely saw any bashing on Apple about putting off OS X Leopard after they deliberately picked on Microsoft and promised they would not delay Leopard; sorry, had to be said

Plus we don’t actually know how long Apple was working on this operating system, so we can’t exactly calculate how long it took them to make it either.

Pieter wrote:
What about the not-so-recent Ubuntu 7.10 upgrade? I didn’t hear any complaints about this upgrade, but that’s probably because of the size of Linux’s market share… :)

I don’t think the Ubuntu upgrade was “big” enough where it would create a lot of issues and anger people. That’s one of the benefits of having a 6-month release cycle…people are able to identify problems before they get so out of hand that it becomes unsolvable.

]]> By: Anonymous http://cybernetnews.com/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-124535 Anonymous Sat, 01 Dec 2007 18:31:19 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/11/30/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/#comment-124535 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-124502" rel="nofollow">Pieter wrote:</a><blockquote>What about the not-so-recent Ubuntu 7.10 upgrade? I didn’t hear any complaints about this upgrade, but that’s probably because of the size of Linux’s market share… :)</blockquote></div> I actually had a few problems with the initial upgrade process, with errors saying it could not upgrade during the upgrade install, but now it works fine. I am still new to Linux, so I can not really give you an in depth review. Pieter wrote:
What about the not-so-recent Ubuntu 7.10 upgrade? I didn’t hear any complaints about this upgrade, but that’s probably because of the size of Linux’s market share… :)

I actually had a few problems with the initial upgrade process, with errors saying it could not upgrade during the upgrade install, but now it works fine. I am still new to Linux, so I can not really give you an in depth review.

]]> By: Pieter http://cybernetnews.com/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-124502 Pieter Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:13:18 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/11/30/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/#comment-124502 What about the not-so-recent Ubuntu 7.10 upgrade? I didn't hear any complaints about this upgrade, but that's probably because of the size of Linux's market share... :) What about the not-so-recent Ubuntu 7.10 upgrade? I didn’t hear any complaints about this upgrade, but that’s probably because of the size of Linux’s market share… :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://cybernetnews.com/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-124468 Anonymous Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:21:55 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/11/30/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/#comment-124468 So, isnt this obvious? these OSes are newborns...granted they could have spent more time on making them "better," but then everyone would continue bashing how Microsoft delays and delays (strange how I barely saw any bashing on Apple about putting off OS X Leopard after they deliberately picked on Microsoft and promised they would not delay Leopard; sorry, had to be said). Anyway, all these two need is time, and as I said many times before, I have been on Vista after XP completely crapped out on me (due to my own fault, so no bashing Microsoft on that one), and Vista has worked properly and has had not nearly as many problems as I have heard coming from both sides of the fence (MS and Mac). So, isnt this obvious? these OSes are newborns…granted they could have spent more time on making them “better,” but then everyone would continue bashing how Microsoft delays and delays (strange how I barely saw any bashing on Apple about putting off OS X Leopard after they deliberately picked on Microsoft and promised they would not delay Leopard; sorry, had to be said). Anyway, all these two need is time, and as I said many times before, I have been on Vista after XP completely crapped out on me (due to my own fault, so no bashing Microsoft on that one), and Vista has worked properly and has had not nearly as many problems as I have heard coming from both sides of the fence (MS and Mac).

]]> By: Michael Dobrofsky http://cybernetnews.com/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-124467 Michael Dobrofsky Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:20:28 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/2007/11/30/this-just-in-vista-leopard-both-suck/#comment-124467 Maybe Software development has become like TV - too many execs running it and not enough actual creative artists. I suspect a lot, if not all of the things that suck in Vista and Leopard are the result of execs who have no clue about design. Maybe Software development has become like TV – too many execs running it and not enough actual creative artists. I suspect a lot, if not all of the things that suck in Vista and Leopard are the result of execs who have no clue about design.

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