Comments on: What do You Think of the Firefox 3 Themes? http://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/ Technology News Sun, 27 May 2012 18:53:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: yeshuhttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138210 yeshu Thu, 22 May 2008 08:51:00 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138210 i dont think the themes are bad at all.... i dont think the themes are bad at all….

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138192 Ryan Wed, 21 May 2008 19:28:50 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138192 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138153" rel="nofollow">onlineapps wrote:</a><blockquote>any word on when Blue Ice for FFX 3 comes out? I seriously can’t wait for that.</blockquote></div> It seems as though theme developers are slow to update their themes, and so I wouldn't expect the update until after the browser is released. There aren't too many good themes out there that work well with Firefox 3 right now.<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138157" rel="nofollow">James wrote:</a><blockquote>The Linux example you posted is not what all Linux or Gnome users see as it can very by a wide margin in colours and icons and style of tabs and form controls depending on the gtk and icon theme used and Gnome version where you can change colour. 3.0 is not themed by KDE themes as to why it may still be blah after changing KDE them.</blockquote></div> I did realize that the Linux theme varies based on GTK, which is pretty cool. But as you pointed out Firefox 3 is not themed by KDE which doesn't make it nearly as exciting. Thanks for the info though! onlineapps wrote:
any word on when Blue Ice for FFX 3 comes out? I seriously can’t wait for that.

It seems as though theme developers are slow to update their themes, and so I wouldn’t expect the update until after the browser is released. There aren’t too many good themes out there that work well with Firefox 3 right now.

James wrote:
The Linux example you posted is not what all Linux or Gnome users see as it can very by a wide margin in colours and icons and style of tabs and form controls depending on the gtk and icon theme used and Gnome version where you can change colour. 3.0 is not themed by KDE themes as to why it may still be blah after changing KDE them.

I did realize that the Linux theme varies based on GTK, which is pretty cool. But as you pointed out Firefox 3 is not themed by KDE which doesn’t make it nearly as exciting. Thanks for the info though!

]]> By: Jameshttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138157 James Wed, 21 May 2008 00:29:31 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138157 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138135" rel="nofollow">Ryan wrote:</a><blockquote><div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138074" rel="nofollow">onlineapps wrote:</a><blockquote>WHY DO THEY KEEP ON CALLING IT THE LINUX THEME? It’s a Gnome theme. It looks like crap on KDE. The tabs aren’t even rendered properly. Wonderful for Gnome users, but they should at least ship Mostly Crystal with it for KDE users.</blockquote></div>Well, it’s called the Linux theme because that’s what all Linux users see. That’s a very good point you’ve made about it not looking so hot on KDE though.</blockquote></div> The Linux example you posted is not what all Linux or Gnome users see as it can very by a wide margin in colours and icons and style of tabs and form controls depending on the gtk and icon theme used and Gnome version where you can change colour. 3.0 is not themed by KDE themes as to why it may still be blah after changing KDE them.examples. GTK 2.x themes http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=100 Icons http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=120x121 Ryan wrote:
onlineapps wrote:
WHY DO THEY KEEP ON CALLING IT THE LINUX THEME? It’s a Gnome theme. It looks like crap on KDE. The tabs aren’t even rendered properly. Wonderful for Gnome users, but they should at least ship Mostly Crystal with it for KDE users.

Well, it’s called the Linux theme because that’s what all Linux users see. That’s a very good point you’ve made about it not looking so hot on KDE though.

The Linux example you posted is not what all Linux or Gnome users see as it can very by a wide margin in colours and icons and style of tabs and form controls depending on the gtk and icon theme used and Gnome version where you can change colour. 3.0 is not themed by KDE themes as to why it may still be blah after changing KDE them.

examples.
GTK 2.x themes [gnome-look.org]
Icons [gnome-look.org]

]]> By: onlineappshttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138153 onlineapps Tue, 20 May 2008 22:12:59 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138153 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138135" rel="nofollow">Ryan wrote:</a><blockquote><div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138074" rel="nofollow">onlineapps wrote:</a><blockquote>WHY DO THEY KEEP ON CALLING IT THE LINUX THEME? It’s a Gnome theme. It looks like crap on KDE. The tabs aren’t even rendered properly. Wonderful for Gnome users, but they should at least ship Mostly Crystal with it for KDE users.</blockquote></div>Well, it’s called the Linux theme because that’s what all Linux users see. That’s a very good point you’ve made about it not looking so hot on KDE though.</blockquote></div>I know, and that's the problem. It shouldn't be called "Linux". It should be called "Gnome".Oh yeah... any word on when Blue Ice for FFX 3 comes out? I seriously can't wait for that. Ryan wrote:
onlineapps wrote:
WHY DO THEY KEEP ON CALLING IT THE LINUX THEME? It’s a Gnome theme. It looks like crap on KDE. The tabs aren’t even rendered properly. Wonderful for Gnome users, but they should at least ship Mostly Crystal with it for KDE users.

Well, it’s called the Linux theme because that’s what all Linux users see. That’s a very good point you’ve made about it not looking so hot on KDE though.

I know, and that’s the problem. It shouldn’t be called “Linux”. It should be called “Gnome”.

Oh yeah… any word on when Blue Ice for FFX 3 comes out? I seriously can’t wait for that.

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138135 Ryan Tue, 20 May 2008 19:15:08 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138135 <div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138074" rel="nofollow">onlineapps wrote:</a><blockquote>WHY DO THEY KEEP ON CALLING IT THE LINUX THEME? It’s a Gnome theme. It looks like crap on KDE. The tabs aren’t even rendered properly. Wonderful for Gnome users, but they should at least ship Mostly Crystal with it for KDE users.</blockquote></div> Well, it's called the Linux theme because that's what all Linux users see. That's a very good point you've made about it not looking so hot on KDE though.<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138083" rel="nofollow">Mris wrote:</a><blockquote>I’ll try to find a new theme to use but I’ll probably switch to Firefox 3 full time when it is released because of the new features and better performance even if I don’t like the look of it.</blockquote></div> Yeah, that's kinda where I'm at as well. The new themes don't look that great, but the performance is a whole heck of a lot better. For that reason I couldn't imagine using Firefox 2 anymore.<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138040" rel="nofollow">Amak wrote:</a><blockquote> The part that makes it hideous is the huge back/forward buttons. Why don’t they scrap it or replace it? I’m sure they could do a lot better.</blockquote></div> That's what I say as well. Unfortunately they wanted to do something that would distinguish the browser from the others, so that someone peaking over your shoulder would know at a glance what browser you were using. They just didn't pick a very nice way to do that.<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138098" rel="nofollow">Anonymous wrote:</a><blockquote>NASA Nightlaunch Theme FTW <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4908" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4908</a></blockquote></div> Definitely one of my favorite themes, but I'm a space shuttle fanatic. ;)<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138103" rel="nofollow">MetaMan wrote:</a><blockquote>Also, it removes the option of only having a back or a forward button, which is how some people have it set up.</blockquote></div> That never even crossed my mind. I used to remove the forward button all of the time because I never used it, and so that's a very valid point.<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138105" rel="nofollow">Dave wrote:</a><blockquote>I use, and have always used, the “small icons” version of any theme. Default just seems way too big for me even on a 1680×1050 resolution. So the keyhole doesn’t bother me.</blockquote></div> I still think the forward and back buttons look a little silly even when using small icons, but it is much better than normal.<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138108" rel="nofollow">Inferno_str1ke wrote:</a><blockquote>That fanboy should at least be glad that Firefox integrates into OSX - even before these new themes Firefox’s top bar would still be relevant to whatever OS one was using. Can’t say the same for any of Apple’s Windows products - Safari and iTunes refuse to integrate with Vista in typical Apple stubbornness.</blockquote></div> He gave Mozilla credit for designing a Mac theme, but just didn't want them criticizing details that they apparently didn't fully research.<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138109" rel="nofollow">Change wrote:</a><blockquote>For the ones disliking the Vista theme on Vista: I heard you could get Fx3 to show/use the XP theme if you select compatibility mode in the shortcut startup settings. Can anyone confirm this? (no Vista here)</blockquote></div> With a little work you can even get the Mac theme on a Windows machine, but I've read that some things don't work properly like the scrollbars. So I'm sure it's possible to get the XP theme on Vista, and visa versa.<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138111" rel="nofollow">Lashiec wrote:</a><blockquote>And yeah, what they were thinking with Places? I mean, that should be the default theme in Vista :)</blockquote></div> It does look nice with that black toolbar, doesn't it?<div class="commentquote"><a href="#comment-138115" rel="nofollow">Sorr wrote:</a><blockquote>i guess there are pretty much arguing but the Firefox theme for Vista is looking good that’s the fact, and BETTER than any other Browser there including IE7/8 .. i do modify it a bit with stylish, glasser, smart bookmarks bar and fission extensions</blockquote></div> If you add Glasser it makes the theme look way better. onlineapps wrote:
WHY DO THEY KEEP ON CALLING IT THE LINUX THEME? It’s a Gnome theme. It looks like crap on KDE. The tabs aren’t even rendered properly. Wonderful for Gnome users, but they should at least ship Mostly Crystal with it for KDE users.

Well, it’s called the Linux theme because that’s what all Linux users see. That’s a very good point you’ve made about it not looking so hot on KDE though.

Mris wrote:
I’ll try to find a new theme to use but I’ll probably switch to Firefox 3 full time when it is released because of the new features and better performance even if I don’t like the look of it.

Yeah, that’s kinda where I’m at as well. The new themes don’t look that great, but the performance is a whole heck of a lot better. For that reason I couldn’t imagine using Firefox 2 anymore.

Amak wrote:
The part that makes it hideous is the huge back/forward buttons. Why don’t they scrap it or replace it? I’m sure they could do a lot better.

That’s what I say as well. Unfortunately they wanted to do something that would distinguish the browser from the others, so that someone peaking over your shoulder would know at a glance what browser you were using. They just didn’t pick a very nice way to do that.

Anonymous wrote:
NASA Nightlaunch Theme FTW
[addons.mozilla.org]

Definitely one of my favorite themes, but I’m a space shuttle fanatic. ;)

MetaMan wrote:
Also, it removes the option of only having a back or a forward button, which is how some people have it set up.

That never even crossed my mind. I used to remove the forward button all of the time because I never used it, and so that’s a very valid point.

Dave wrote:
I use, and have always used, the “small icons” version of any theme. Default just seems way too big for me even on a 1680×1050 resolution. So the keyhole doesn’t bother me.

I still think the forward and back buttons look a little silly even when using small icons, but it is much better than normal.

Inferno_str1ke wrote:
That fanboy should at least be glad that Firefox integrates into OSX – even before these new themes Firefox’s top bar would still be relevant to whatever OS one was using. Can’t say the same for any of Apple’s Windows products – Safari and iTunes refuse to integrate with Vista in typical Apple stubbornness.

He gave Mozilla credit for designing a Mac theme, but just didn’t want them criticizing details that they apparently didn’t fully research.

Change wrote:
For the ones disliking the Vista theme on Vista: I heard you could get Fx3 to show/use the XP theme if you select compatibility mode in the shortcut startup settings. Can anyone confirm this? (no Vista here)

With a little work you can even get the Mac theme on a Windows machine, but I’ve read that some things don’t work properly like the scrollbars. So I’m sure it’s possible to get the XP theme on Vista, and visa versa.

Lashiec wrote:
And yeah, what they were thinking with Places? I mean, that should be the default theme in Vista :)

It does look nice with that black toolbar, doesn’t it?

Sorr wrote:
i guess there are pretty much arguing but the Firefox theme for Vista is looking good that’s the fact, and BETTER than any other Browser there including IE7/8 .. i do modify it a bit with stylish, glasser, smart bookmarks bar and fission extensions

If you add Glasser it makes the theme look way better.

]]> By: Sorrhttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138115 Sorr Tue, 20 May 2008 11:44:03 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138115 i guess there are pretty much arguing but the Firefox theme for Vista is looking good that's the fact, and BETTER than any other Browser there including IE7/8 .. i do modify it a bit with stylish, glasser, smart bookmarks bar and fission extensions i guess there are pretty much arguing but the Firefox theme for Vista is looking good that’s the fact, and BETTER than any other Browser there including IE7/8 .. i do modify it a bit with stylish, glasser, smart bookmarks bar and fission extensions

]]> By: Lashiechttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138111 Lashiec Tue, 20 May 2008 10:35:07 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138111 Frankly, themes quality in Firefox has been going downhill since 1.0, I still miss the first Winstripe. And the only one who feels more or less right is the Linux one, and still I think the previous one was better.They could claim this is done in name of visual consistency, but they don't feel "native" at all.And yeah, what they were thinking with Places? I mean, that should be the default theme in Vista :) Frankly, themes quality in Firefox has been going downhill since 1.0, I still miss the first Winstripe. And the only one who feels more or less right is the Linux one, and still I think the previous one was better.

They could claim this is done in name of visual consistency, but they don’t feel “native” at all.

And yeah, what they were thinking with Places? I mean, that should be the default theme in Vista :)

]]> By: Changehttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138109 Change Tue, 20 May 2008 07:53:53 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138109 For the ones disliking the Vista theme on Vista: I heard you could get Fx3 to show/use the XP theme if you select compatibility mode in the shortcut startup settings. Can anyone confirm this? (no Vista here)I must be one of the few who actually likes this theme (in a Windows Classic environment). I agree that the keyhole is violating some rules, but I do understand why they've done it. The browser *does* become recognizable visually this way. Since I'm using small icons, it doesn't bother me when using it either, and I love the small icons compared to all previous Fx themes. Did you guys know that Mozilla hired the company that also did the official Windows icons? (afaik)As for Linux, I thought I read that the icons will change depending on the flavor of Linux used. Reading the comments, that doesn't seem to be the case. Also reading these follow-up posts from the Fx guys, it seems I, unfortunately, misunderstood: * Visual Refresh & Linux (and you?) http://steelgryphon.com/blog/?p=108 * Giving the penguin a makeover http://www.beltzner.ca/mike/archives/2007/10/11/giving_the_penguin_a_makeover.html For the ones disliking the Vista theme on Vista: I heard you could get Fx3 to show/use the XP theme if you select compatibility mode in the shortcut startup settings. Can anyone confirm this? (no Vista here)

I must be one of the few who actually likes this theme (in a Windows Classic environment). I agree that the keyhole is violating some rules, but I do understand why they’ve done it. The browser *does* become recognizable visually this way. Since I’m using small icons, it doesn’t bother me when using it either, and I love the small icons compared to all previous Fx themes. Did you guys know that Mozilla hired the company that also did the official Windows icons? (afaik)

As for Linux, I thought I read that the icons will change depending on the flavor of Linux used. Reading the comments, that doesn’t seem to be the case. Also reading these follow-up posts from the Fx guys, it seems I, unfortunately, misunderstood:
* Visual Refresh & Linux (and you?)
[steelgryphon.com]
* Giving the penguin a makeover
[beltzner.ca]

]]> By: Inferno_str1kehttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138108 Inferno_str1ke Tue, 20 May 2008 07:51:04 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138108 That fanboy should at least be glad that Firefox integrates into OSX - even before these new themes Firefox's top bar would still be relevant to whatever OS one was using. Can't say the same for any of Apple's Windows products - Safari and iTunes refuse to integrate with Vista in typical Apple stubbornness. As far as the back button goes its just something different and people will likely get used to it. Apart from me, as the back and forward buttons have vanished from my browser (yes, including the customise box) entirely. That fanboy should at least be glad that Firefox integrates into OSX – even before these new themes Firefox’s top bar would still be relevant to whatever OS one was using. Can’t say the same for any of Apple’s Windows products – Safari and iTunes refuse to integrate with Vista in typical Apple stubbornness. As far as the back button goes its just something different and people will likely get used to it. Apart from me, as the back and forward buttons have vanished from my browser (yes, including the customise box) entirely.

]]> By: Davehttp://cybernetnews.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-firefox-3-themes/#comment-138105 Dave Tue, 20 May 2008 06:32:44 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=12643#comment-138105 I use, and have always used, the "small icons" version of any theme. Default just seems way too big for me even on a 1680x1050 resolution. So the keyhole doesn't bother me. I use, and have always used, the “small icons” version of any theme. Default just seems way too big for me even on a 1680×1050 resolution. So the keyhole doesn’t bother me.

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