Comments on: Why the Industry is Dealing with Piracy the Wrong Way http://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/ Technology News Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/#comment-149302 Ryan Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:17:30 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=17249#comment-149302 The whole "buy online" scheme has always perplexed me when it comes to digital media. I'm with you that I'd assume it should cost significantly less if you just download it. I guess that doesn't really happen with books either though. The whole “buy online” scheme has always perplexed me when it comes to digital media. I’m with you that I’d assume it should cost significantly less if you just download it. I guess that doesn’t really happen with books either though.

]]> By: MarcoMRhttp://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/#comment-149159 MarcoMR Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:55:16 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=17249#comment-149159 Here's how activision is fighting back piracy : http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/19/modern-warfare-2-bringing-60-price-tag-to-pc-games/Clever ... legit buyers want to pay more ... of course ... Here’s how activision is fighting back piracy :
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Clever … legit buyers want to pay more … of course …

]]> By: M1kehttp://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/#comment-149106 M1ke Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:07:58 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=17249#comment-149106 Firstly, please don't start directing people to Tor who might not know what they're doing - from a legal individual standpoint use of Tor can be far more dangerous than piracy. Whilst traffic moves on random encrypted paths through the network (hence they can't necessarily track you downloading music) it does this by using each user as a node to forward traffic. The last mile connection from your ISP has to be unencrypted so your computer can read it, meaning random packets from anyone using Tor can end up momentarily passing, in the open, through your connection. Not too bad when this is piracy, but when you consider that Tor's anonymity services are heavily used by more illegal areas of the internet (i.e. child porn) you really don't want that stuff going through your PC. So be careful about thinking Tor is a solution to getting caught.I do, however, agree with a number of your other points especially that about localised content. I'm not allowed to watch shows on NBC online, Hulu etc. so do I wait 6 months and buy them on DVD? Hell no, I get onto TPB rapidly and watch what I want to watch. Whilst localised licensing and releasing worked in the days of physical media its a stupid concept online - imagine if I wasn't allowed to read CyberNet because I'm not in the US! Muse recently released a single in almost every country, except the UK depsite them being from the UK. I'm not sure what the expected result was but I know that I now have no need to buy that song when it eventually gets released there; good job guys, another lost sale.Finally what the hell is the deal with online stuff being as expensive as commercial releases? I buy the occasional PC game and despite Steam being a brilliant platform I tend to go for boxed releases because somehow its cheaper than buying an online copy - this makes no sense and there have been times when I've intended to download a game but thought "I'll get this cheaper boxed" and as a result forgotten about it. The industry needs to realise that holding onto a business model that the consumer doesn't like through legal action is a poor method - imagine if restaurants competed against fast food places by throwing out people who'd recently eaten in McDonalds... Firstly, please don’t start directing people to Tor who might not know what they’re doing – from a legal individual standpoint use of Tor can be far more dangerous than piracy. Whilst traffic moves on random encrypted paths through the network (hence they can’t necessarily track you downloading music) it does this by using each user as a node to forward traffic. The last mile connection from your ISP has to be unencrypted so your computer can read it, meaning random packets from anyone using Tor can end up momentarily passing, in the open, through your connection. Not too bad when this is piracy, but when you consider that Tor’s anonymity services are heavily used by more illegal areas of the internet (i.e. child porn) you really don’t want that stuff going through your PC. So be careful about thinking Tor is a solution to getting caught.

I do, however, agree with a number of your other points especially that about localised content. I’m not allowed to watch shows on NBC online, Hulu etc. so do I wait 6 months and buy them on DVD? Hell no, I get onto TPB rapidly and watch what I want to watch. Whilst localised licensing and releasing worked in the days of physical media its a stupid concept online – imagine if I wasn’t allowed to read CyberNet because I’m not in the US! Muse recently released a single in almost every country, except the UK depsite them being from the UK. I’m not sure what the expected result was but I know that I now have no need to buy that song when it eventually gets released there; good job guys, another lost sale.

Finally what the hell is the deal with online stuff being as expensive as commercial releases? I buy the occasional PC game and despite Steam being a brilliant platform I tend to go for boxed releases because somehow its cheaper than buying an online copy – this makes no sense and there have been times when I’ve intended to download a game but thought “I’ll get this cheaper boxed” and as a result forgotten about it. The industry needs to realise that holding onto a business model that the consumer doesn’t like through legal action is a poor method – imagine if restaurants competed against fast food places by throwing out people who’d recently eaten in McDonalds…

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/#comment-149103 Ryan Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:50:32 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=17249#comment-149103 kfonda - I've noticed other shows embedding the ads into the show as well. One example is in MythBusters... one episode I just watched showed a new diesel car by Volkswagen. They were trying to bring science into it so that it would appeal to the audience, and it was actually quite clever. I actually found myself watching it instead of just toning it out like I do for most commercials. kfonda – I’ve noticed other shows embedding the ads into the show as well. One example is in MythBusters… one episode I just watched showed a new diesel car by Volkswagen. They were trying to bring science into it so that it would appeal to the audience, and it was actually quite clever. I actually found myself watching it instead of just toning it out like I do for most commercials.

]]> By: kfondahttp://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/#comment-149095 kfonda Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:56:02 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=17249#comment-149095 The end result will be that they won't be able to stay in business if nobody pays. We all know that the actors don't work cheap. Just look at the ridiculous number of "reality" shows that are on TV. They don't have to pay anywhere near as much to make those kind of shows and the 'sheep' seem to like the manufactured reality.One thing I've noticed lately is the TV show 'Eureka'. They've been embedding the advertising right into the show. Last week they had a new cop car that was a Subaru and they made mention of it a few times during the show. I think that could work out very well if they don't get too carried away. The end result will be that they won’t be able to stay in business if nobody pays. We all know that the actors don’t work cheap. Just look at the ridiculous number of “reality” shows that are on TV. They don’t have to pay anywhere near as much to make those kind of shows and the ‘sheep’ seem to like the manufactured reality.

One thing I’ve noticed lately is the TV show ‘Eureka’. They’ve been embedding the advertising right into the show. Last week they had a new cop car that was a Subaru and they made mention of it a few times during the show. I think that could work out very well if they don’t get too carried away.

]]> By: Ryanhttp://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/#comment-149085 Ryan Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:29:37 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=17249#comment-149085 That is a good way to put it... they need to put their resources towards making what they offer better than what you'll get if you pirate the content. I think the best way they can do that is by making it available quickly and easily. Let users stream the content without having to wait for a download to finish. That is a good way to put it… they need to put their resources towards making what they offer better than what you’ll get if you pirate the content. I think the best way they can do that is by making it available quickly and easily. Let users stream the content without having to wait for a download to finish.

]]> By: n2turtleshttp://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/#comment-149080 n2turtles Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:45:17 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=17249#comment-149080 I think also that copyright is almost dead, they wont be able to keep making paying for something you can have for free easily... They have to give something valuable, make the people prefer to use a legal way than illegal, don't fight the piracy, do better ! I think also that copyright is almost dead, they wont be able to keep making paying for something you can have for free easily…
They have to give something valuable, make the people prefer to use a legal way than illegal, don’t fight the piracy, do better !

]]> By: MarcoMRhttp://cybernetnews.com/why-the-industry-is-dealing-with-piracy-the-wrong-way/#comment-149075 MarcoMR Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:43:09 +0000 http://cybernetnews.com/?p=17249#comment-149075 "The weaknesses of illegal downloading"Not annoyances to me :P ... even if i am not a native English speaker i watch more and more ... ahem ... things ... without subtitles ... and don't care about them. I found out "The Chaser's War on Everything" via not official downloads and ... best show i've seen lately ... (search youtube for small videos if you want to laugh).My advices to the industry : ---------------------------- Simply listen to want they want to buy. Don't feed them with grass like donkeys ...Also lower prices ... those originals i have bought are all bought at promos or low price, even if they have a few years old. Last one was a Terminator 2 - The Movie special box edition at a very low price.On TVShows ... you only have one chance ... share them on-line with commercials in. “The weaknesses of illegal downloading”

Not annoyances to me :P … even if i am not a native English speaker i watch more and more … ahem … things … without subtitles … and don’t care about them.
I found out “The Chaser’s War on Everything” via not official downloads and … best show i’ve seen lately … (search youtube for small videos if you want to laugh).

My advices to the industry :
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Simply listen to want they want to buy. Don’t feed them with grass like donkeys …

Also lower prices … those originals i have bought are all bought at promos or low price, even if they have a few years old. Last one was a Terminator 2 – The Movie special box edition at a very low price.

On TVShows … you only have one chance … share them on-line with commercials in.

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