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	<title>Comments on: Windows Fiji isn&#8217;t really Vista SP1 after all</title>
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		<title>By: MetaMan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/windows-fiji-isnt-really-vista-sp1-after-all/comment-page-1/#comment-91065</link>
		<dc:creator>MetaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they combined Tablet and Media Center into Home Premium, so they should be able to do it again.  It&#039;s simple.  All they would have to do is get rid of Business and Home Basic. Really, they should only have one version, but there&#039;s next to no chance of that ever happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they combined Tablet and Media Center into Home Premium, so they should be able to do it again.  It&#8217;s simple.  All they would have to do is get rid of Business and Home Basic. Really, they should only have one version, but there&#8217;s next to no chance of that ever happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three versions is more reasonable than two, but I think it is only going to keep getting worse. In the early days of Windows there was really only one version for each release. Then XP came and there were a few different ones (Home, Pro, Media Center, Tablet) and now Vista has even more. It is just too confusing for most people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three versions is more reasonable than two, but I think it is only going to keep getting worse. In the early days of Windows there was really only one version for each release. Then XP came and there were a few different ones (Home, Pro, Media Center, Tablet) and now Vista has even more. It is just too confusing for most people.</p>
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		<title>By: MetaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea. They could make three editions: Home, Business, and something non-confusing like Enthusiast (which everyone would avoid unless they new what it was, in which case they&#039;d probably be an enthusiast). Then, they could charge less for the OS if they were concerned about consumers thinking it was overpriced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea. They could make three editions: Home, Business, and something non-confusing like Enthusiast (which everyone would avoid unless they new what it was, in which case they&#8217;d probably be an enthusiast). Then, they could charge less for the OS if they were concerned about consumers thinking it was overpriced.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two versions of Windows would indeed be great, but Microsoft wanted to create the Ultimate edition so that they could throw in a few extras and make a lot more money. If they didn&#039;t offer the lower-cost editions for more reasonable prices (around $200) then a lot less people probably would have bought into the new operating system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two versions of Windows would indeed be great, but Microsoft wanted to create the Ultimate edition so that they could throw in a few extras and make a lot more money. If they didn&#8217;t offer the lower-cost editions for more reasonable prices (around $200) then a lot less people probably would have bought into the new operating system.</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of &quot;Ultimate Edition&quot;, good grief could Microsoft have made it anymore difficult for the typical user to decide which version to upgrade too?

That&#039;s another thing they should change; revert to only two editions - Business and Home.  Notice, I said &quot;Business&quot; and not &quot;Pro&quot;.  Even &quot;XP Pro&quot; and XP Home Edition&quot; confused people. When it comes to technology one on the most difficult aspects is making a decision. Even in this age of information, people don&#039;t want to spend hours educating themselves as to which of five (5) versions of a product to purchase. K.I.S.S (keep It Simple, Stupid!) and the people will pucker up (with their wallets that is).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of &#8220;Ultimate Edition&#8221;, good grief could Microsoft have made it anymore difficult for the typical user to decide which version to upgrade too?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s another thing they should change; revert to only two editions &#8211; Business and Home.  Notice, I said &#8220;Business&#8221; and not &#8220;Pro&#8221;.  Even &#8220;XP Pro&#8221; and XP Home Edition&#8221; confused people. When it comes to technology one on the most difficult aspects is making a decision. Even in this age of information, people don&#8217;t want to spend hours educating themselves as to which of five (5) versions of a product to purchase. K.I.S.S (keep It Simple, Stupid!) and the people will pucker up (with their wallets that is).</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-90583&quot;&gt;MetaMan wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I like CoryC&#039;s idea, if we are on the same page, that is.  Every year, MS would release an update to the OS, one which would add new features and improvements to the existing ones (such as the sidebar), at no cost to the user. Then, after a few years (3-5), they would release a major upgrade, one that would have new major features (like DX10).
This would accomplish three things.  The first is that the OS would not stagnate, held back by the principle that only major updates can have new features.  The second is that MS would be able to space these minor upgrades over a period of time, giving them more time and flexibility with developing the major features.  Third, it would allow them to delay if necessary without having to worry that the current OS is getting too old. Also, as a bonus, these free updates could be about equivalent to Apple&#039;s paid ones, giving MS an edge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;

Exactly!  8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-90583">MetaMan wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I like CoryC&#8217;s idea, if we are on the same page, that is.  Every year, MS would release an update to the OS, one which would add new features and improvements to the existing ones (such as the sidebar), at no cost to the user. Then, after a few years (3-5), they would release a major upgrade, one that would have new major features (like DX10).<br />
This would accomplish three things.  The first is that the OS would not stagnate, held back by the principle that only major updates can have new features.  The second is that MS would be able to space these minor upgrades over a period of time, giving them more time and flexibility with developing the major features.  Third, it would allow them to delay if necessary without having to worry that the current OS is getting too old. Also, as a bonus, these free updates could be about equivalent to Apple&#8217;s paid ones, giving MS an edge.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Exactly!  <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CoryC: That is a great idea...even the service packs for Windows are never really exciting and typically focus on bug fixes more than anything. I would like to see them working on more features to release for the most current version of Windows, which is Vista right now. That way it would also give consumers more satisfaction when buying the product knowing that they will continue to get bug fixes and features later on.

Apple also disappoints me with how they charge for what they label as a more minor update, but everyone I talk to say that they can easily get it illegally. Mac, unlike Vista, does not have any sort of activation so all you need is a serial number and your good as gold. Of course I&#039;m not condoning piracy, but the fact is many Apple users hate having to pay for these upgrades as well...and they&#039;re looking for another solution.

@Slasher: I&#039;ve had a lot of hands-on experience with both Vista and XP (been a Windows user all my life and jumped on the Vista Beta bandwagon almost a year ago) and I can see where you&#039;re coming from. One of the biggest concerns for me with Vista was how long it would take developers to come up with compatible applications. As of right now I would say that application compatibility is very high and I&#039;m surprised at how many updates have been released to make programs work with Vista. The only program that I use which isn&#039;t officially labeled as Vista compatible is...iTunes. ;)

Some people (like family) that I have had play with Vista, who have used XP just a little bit, say that Vista has things a little more intuitively laid out...especially the Control Panel. They can just start to type a setting that they are looking for and it will pull it right up, so now users don&#039;t feel so intimidated when wanting to change something. This was a great move by Microsoft.

@MetaMan: I didn&#039;t really think about that giving an edge to Microsoft, but you&#039;re definitely right. Since Vista is priced higher than what Mac OS normally costs it would give it more value if people knew that they would get updates similar to what Mac users have to pay for. I think this is something Microsoft might take more advantage of with the &quot;Ultimate Extras&quot; for Vista Ultimate, but as of right now those extras are a little disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CoryC: That is a great idea&#8230;even the service packs for Windows are never really exciting and typically focus on bug fixes more than anything. I would like to see them working on more features to release for the most current version of Windows, which is Vista right now. That way it would also give consumers more satisfaction when buying the product knowing that they will continue to get bug fixes and features later on.</p>
<p>Apple also disappoints me with how they charge for what they label as a more minor update, but everyone I talk to say that they can easily get it illegally. Mac, unlike Vista, does not have any sort of activation so all you need is a serial number and your good as gold. Of course I&#8217;m not condoning piracy, but the fact is many Apple users hate having to pay for these upgrades as well&#8230;and they&#8217;re looking for another solution.</p>
<p>@Slasher: I&#8217;ve had a lot of hands-on experience with both Vista and XP (been a Windows user all my life and jumped on the Vista Beta bandwagon almost a year ago) and I can see where you&#8217;re coming from. One of the biggest concerns for me with Vista was how long it would take developers to come up with compatible applications. As of right now I would say that application compatibility is very high and I&#8217;m surprised at how many updates have been released to make programs work with Vista. The only program that I use which isn&#8217;t officially labeled as Vista compatible is&#8230;iTunes. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Some people (like family) that I have had play with Vista, who have used XP just a little bit, say that Vista has things a little more intuitively laid out&#8230;especially the Control Panel. They can just start to type a setting that they are looking for and it will pull it right up, so now users don&#8217;t feel so intimidated when wanting to change something. This was a great move by Microsoft.</p>
<p>@MetaMan: I didn&#8217;t really think about that giving an edge to Microsoft, but you&#8217;re definitely right. Since Vista is priced higher than what Mac OS normally costs it would give it more value if people knew that they would get updates similar to what Mac users have to pay for. I think this is something Microsoft might take more advantage of with the &#8220;Ultimate Extras&#8221; for Vista Ultimate, but as of right now those extras are a little disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: MetaMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MetaMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like CoryC&#039;s idea, if we are on the same page, that is.  Every year, MS would release an update to the OS, one which would add new features and improvements to the existing ones (such as the sidebar), at no cost to the user. Then, after a few years (3-5), they would release a major upgrade, one that would have new major features (like DX10).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This would accomplish three things.  The first is that the OS would not stagnate, held back by the principle that only major updates can have new features.  The second is that MS would be able to space these minor upgrades over a period of time, giving them more time and flexibility with developing the major features.  Third, it would allow them to delay if necessary without having to worry that the current OS is getting too old. Also, as a bonus, these free updates could be about equivalent to Apple&#039;s paid ones, giving MS an edge.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like CoryC&#8217;s idea, if we are on the same page, that is.  Every year, MS would release an update to the OS, one which would add new features and improvements to the existing ones (such as the sidebar), at no cost to the user. Then, after a few years (3-5), they would release a major upgrade, one that would have new major features (like DX10).</p>
<p>This would accomplish three things.  The first is that the OS would not stagnate, held back by the principle that only major updates can have new features.  The second is that MS would be able to space these minor upgrades over a period of time, giving them more time and flexibility with developing the major features.  Third, it would allow them to delay if necessary without having to worry that the current OS is getting too old. Also, as a bonus, these free updates could be about equivalent to Apple&#8217;s paid ones, giving MS an edge.</p>
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		<title>By: The Slasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Slasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no compelling reasons to upgrade to any new versions of Windows higher than XP.</description>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think MS should make more frequent updates to Windows.       
I&#039;m not talking about service packs either. In my opinion, there should be a new release on Windows every year.  The new release wouldn&#039;t need to be a major upgrade, just some new features and updates to existing applications.  Yes, bug fixes could be apart of these releases but they shouldn&#039;t be called &quot;service packs&quot;.  Think of it as Windows 6.0, then 6.1, 6.2, etc.  This would allow MS to casually add new features with out the pressure to deliver a huge new system every few years (think Longhorn which had to be stripped down to a shell of it&#039;s planned release).

It&#039;s my belief that customers &lt;em&gt;never  &lt;/em&gt; pay for minor upgrades, only major ones (ex: Windows 7.0).  

Apple rubs me the wrong way because with each new version of Mac OS X, customers have to fork over money to upgrade when there isn&#039;t much that changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think MS should make more frequent updates to Windows.<br />
I&#8217;m not talking about service packs either. In my opinion, there should be a new release on Windows every year.  The new release wouldn&#8217;t need to be a major upgrade, just some new features and updates to existing applications.  Yes, bug fixes could be apart of these releases but they shouldn&#8217;t be called &#8220;service packs&#8221;.  Think of it as Windows 6.0, then 6.1, 6.2, etc.  This would allow MS to casually add new features with out the pressure to deliver a huge new system every few years (think Longhorn which had to be stripped down to a shell of it&#8217;s planned release).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my belief that customers <em>never  </em> pay for minor upgrades, only major ones (ex: Windows 7.0).  </p>
<p>Apple rubs me the wrong way because with each new version of Mac OS X, customers have to fork over money to upgrade when there isn&#8217;t much that changes.</p>
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