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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/windows-vista-sp1-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-86934</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s one way to look at it. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one way to look at it. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SLA</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/windows-vista-sp1-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-86919</link>
		<dc:creator>SLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Vista is so buggy... There will be hundreds updates in first months after January 30.

&lt;blockquote&gt;CompUSA is going to offer a money-back guarantee if youâ€™re not completely satisfied with Vista or Office 2007. To take advantage of this offer you will have to fork out $50 for their technicians to install the software on your PC at the CompUSA store [...] Should you decide that youâ€™re not satisfied with Vista they will refund your money (well, probably not the $50 installation fee) and theyâ€™ll reinstall your previous operating system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Folks! If your WinXP is slow, buggy, or infected with viruses, you need &lt;strong&gt;WinXP CLEAN (RE)INSTALL&lt;/strong&gt;. Cheap offer from CompUSA - $50 only :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Vista is so buggy&#8230; There will be hundreds updates in first months after January 30.</p>
<blockquote><p>CompUSA is going to offer a money-back guarantee if youâ€™re not completely satisfied with Vista or Office 2007. To take advantage of this offer you will have to fork out $50 for their technicians to install the software on your PC at the CompUSA store [...] Should you decide that youâ€™re not satisfied with Vista they will refund your money (well, probably not the $50 installation fee) and theyâ€™ll reinstall your previous operating system.</p></blockquote>
<p>Folks! If your WinXP is slow, buggy, or infected with viruses, you need <strong>WinXP CLEAN (RE)INSTALL</strong>. Cheap offer from CompUSA &#8211; $50 only <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/windows-vista-sp1-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-86908</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-86903&quot;&gt;CoryC wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It sounds to me like someone in management said, &quot;Ship SP1 as soon as possible so we can sell more copies of Vista.  It doesn&#039;t matter if we have fixed enough of the bugs to make it worthy of calling the update a service pack.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what they are saying because one of the articles that I&#039;ve read said that Vista&#039;s sales should remain steady for about 12-months. If that&#039;s when sales starts to dip a little then of course Microsoft will do what they can to pick it back up.

They only release patches for Windows and Internet Explorer once a month (unless something severely critical comes up), so I don&#039;t understand why they can&#039;t setup some sort of batch script that will aggregate all of the updates up to that point. That way when people install a fresh copy of Vista they would be able to download one file and the whole system will be up to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-86903">CoryC wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>It sounds to me like someone in management said, &#8220;Ship SP1 as soon as possible so we can sell more copies of Vista.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if we have fixed enough of the bugs to make it worthy of calling the update a service pack.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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<p>I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what they are saying because one of the articles that I&#8217;ve read said that Vista&#8217;s sales should remain steady for about 12-months. If that&#8217;s when sales starts to dip a little then of course Microsoft will do what they can to pick it back up.</p>
<p>They only release patches for Windows and Internet Explorer once a month (unless something severely critical comes up), so I don&#8217;t understand why they can&#8217;t setup some sort of batch script that will aggregate all of the updates up to that point. That way when people install a fresh copy of Vista they would be able to download one file and the whole system will be up to date.</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;so a bulk of the fixes probably wonâ€™t emerge until 4 to 6 months after the consumer release.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s my point exactly. By the time most of these bugs are reported it will be second-half of 2007. So how many bugs will be included?  

It sounds to me like someone in management said, &quot;Ship SP1 as soon as possible so we can sell more copies of Vista.  It doesn&#039;t matter if we have fixed enough of the bugs to make it worthy of calling the update a service pack.&quot;

If they would release the updates as hot fixes as soon as they are available then they could wait until there were more of them to make the SP1 worth the time and planning corporations have to make for any SP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>so a bulk of the fixes probably wonâ€™t emerge until 4 to 6 months after the consumer release.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s my point exactly. By the time most of these bugs are reported it will be second-half of 2007. So how many bugs will be included?  </p>
<p>It sounds to me like someone in management said, &#8220;Ship SP1 as soon as possible so we can sell more copies of Vista.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if we have fixed enough of the bugs to make it worthy of calling the update a service pack.&#8221;</p>
<p>If they would release the updates as hot fixes as soon as they are available then they could wait until there were more of them to make the SP1 worth the time and planning corporations have to make for any SP.</p>
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		<title>By: Rub3X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rub3X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t surprising, there will be a lot of bugs in brand new software, and compatibility fixes as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t surprising, there will be a lot of bugs in brand new software, and compatibility fixes as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://cybernetnews.com/windows-vista-sp1-in-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-86899</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-86897&quot;&gt;wipeout140 wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;http://www.vistasp1.net/

Website for all bugs in Vista up to date and updated with links to Microsoft website on these bugs&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I think that is a handy site to have in my bookmarks. ;)

&lt;div id=&quot;commentquote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-86898&quot;&gt;CoryC wrote:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m sure this a big driver for getting SP1 out-the-door.  Many businesses won&#039;t upgrade until after SP1.  So, it only makes sense to get it out there quickly.  The question is, is it too early.  With Windows 2000 SP1 fixed over &lt;em&gt;500&lt;/em&gt; defects.  Windows XP was about the same. Will a smaller number of defects corrected mean there are fewer bugs in Vista or that there wasn&#039;t enough time between the two release dates to fixed all the bugs that were identified?

With that in mind, will an early release of SP1 be good for customers or a clever marketing campaign?  I can see Bill saying now, &quot;With other release of Windows, SP1 corrected hundreds of problems but with Vista only three bugs were fixed.  How&#039;s that for progress! Upgrade today!&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
I think they&#039;ll have plenty of time to start rolling out bug fixes, and the site that wipeout140 points to shows that there are already 16 available. It may not seem like much considering two-months have passed by since RTM, but the bug reports will start rolling in once consumers get their hands on it. I&#039;m sure a lot of the bug fixes take time to complete and test (Microsoft isn&#039;t exactly known for speedy releases when it comes to patches) so a bulk of the fixes probably won&#039;t emerge until 4 to 6 months after the consumer release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-86897">wipeout140 wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>[<a href='http://www.vistasp1.net/' rel='nofollow'>vistasp1.net</a>]</p>
<p>Website for all bugs in Vista up to date and updated with links to Microsoft website on these bugs</p></blockquote>
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<p>I think that is a handy site to have in my bookmarks. <img src='http://cybernetnews.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<div id="commentquote"><a href="#comment-86898">CoryC wrote:</a><br />
<blockquote>I&#8217;m sure this a big driver for getting SP1 out-the-door.  Many businesses won&#8217;t upgrade until after SP1.  So, it only makes sense to get it out there quickly.  The question is, is it too early.  With Windows 2000 SP1 fixed over <em>500</em> defects.  Windows XP was about the same. Will a smaller number of defects corrected mean there are fewer bugs in Vista or that there wasn&#8217;t enough time between the two release dates to fixed all the bugs that were identified?</p>
<p>With that in mind, will an early release of SP1 be good for customers or a clever marketing campaign?  I can see Bill saying now, &#8220;With other release of Windows, SP1 corrected hundreds of problems but with Vista only three bugs were fixed.  How&#8217;s that for progress! Upgrade today!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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<p>I think they&#8217;ll have plenty of time to start rolling out bug fixes, and the site that wipeout140 points to shows that there are already 16 available. It may not seem like much considering two-months have passed by since RTM, but the bug reports will start rolling in once consumers get their hands on it. I&#8217;m sure a lot of the bug fixes take time to complete and test (Microsoft isn&#8217;t exactly known for speedy releases when it comes to patches) so a bulk of the fixes probably won&#8217;t emerge until 4 to 6 months after the consumer release.</p>
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		<title>By: CoryC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoryC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;so if youâ€™re one of the many holding off until Vista hits that milestone you might be able to get it in time for the holidaysâ€¦maybe Santa will bring it for you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m sure this a big driver for getting SP1 out-the-door.  Many businesses won&#039;t upgrade until after SP1.  So, it only makes sense to get it out there quickly.  The question is, is it too early.  With Windows 2000 SP1 fixed over &lt;em&gt;500&lt;/em&gt; defects.  Windows XP was about the same. Will a smaller number of defects corrected mean there are fewer bugs in Vista or that there wasn&#039;t enough time between the two release dates to fixed all the bugs that were identified?

With that in mind, will an early release of SP1 be good for customers or a clever marketing campaign?  I can see Bill saying now, &quot;With other release of Windows, SP1 corrected hundreds of problems but with Vista only three bugs were fixed.  How&#039;s that for progress! Upgrade today!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>so if youâ€™re one of the many holding off until Vista hits that milestone you might be able to get it in time for the holidaysâ€¦maybe Santa will bring it for you.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sure this a big driver for getting SP1 out-the-door.  Many businesses won&#8217;t upgrade until after SP1.  So, it only makes sense to get it out there quickly.  The question is, is it too early.  With Windows 2000 SP1 fixed over <em>500</em> defects.  Windows XP was about the same. Will a smaller number of defects corrected mean there are fewer bugs in Vista or that there wasn&#8217;t enough time between the two release dates to fixed all the bugs that were identified?</p>
<p>With that in mind, will an early release of SP1 be good for customers or a clever marketing campaign?  I can see Bill saying now, &#8220;With other release of Windows, SP1 corrected hundreds of problems but with Vista only three bugs were fixed.  How&#8217;s that for progress! Upgrade today!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wipeout140</title>
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		<dc:creator>wipeout140</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> http://www.vistasp1.net/

Website for all bugs in Vista up to date and updated with links to Microsoft website on these bugs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[<a href='http://www.vistasp1.net/' rel='nofollow'>vistasp1.net</a>]</p>
<p>Website for all bugs in Vista up to date and updated with links to Microsoft website on these bugs</p>
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